I haven’t seen any traffic flow diagrams for entering or leaving the the car park at Brookvale Warringah Mall. It seems, without any other information that vehicles would only be able to enter the carpark off Pittwater Road travelling from the North to the South.
This makes for a left turn to enter the car park and also a left turn to leave. What are they going to do if they want to travel North again?
I suspect they are going to drive down to Robert Avenue and try to do a U-turn at the head of Robert Avenue as vehicles attempt now, so that they can head North again or enter the Mall.
It is really a dangerous manoeuvre there. Difficult for cars to see other cars coming around the bend. There have already been cars rolled onto their sides and semi trailers attempting turns there even. Mental.
There used to be a No U-Turn sign there, but it got knocked over by cars. When Roads or Council came to put it up again they mistakenly faced it the other direction. Of course when that sign originally appeared on Pittwater Road, that was when drivers tried turning in Robert Avenue instead.
I would propose a traffic island at the head of Robert Avenue to prevent traffic trying to turn there, but still allowing local traffic to make legitimate turns to the left or right into Pittwater Road.
Don’t know where people are going to turn out of the car park to return North though.
The Brookvale Community Health Centre is a development being constructed by NSW Health and Infrastructure.
Northern Beaches B-Line have acquired 250 commuter car spaces within the complex to compliment the bus transport plans for the Northern Beaches.
You can access diagrams and plans for the Brookvale Community Health Centre development at http://majorprojects.planning.nsw.gov.au/index.pl?action=view_job&job_id=6980 for more information.
How are you going to ensure that the 250 car spaces are used by bonafide public transport users? There are a lot of car drivers who work in the surrounding area who would make use of all day parking.
There are 250 car spaces within the Brookvale Community Health Centre which will be allocated to commuter car parking for people to park their car and access bus services from the Brookvale B-Line and local bus stops.
TfNSW is investigating a variety options to restrict these car parks to commuters only, using car park entry and exit control points and Opal card technology.
More information will be available as we near completion of the project.
1/ Has it been determined yet if the exit on William St to Pittwater Rd is being changed to both left and right turning? This was proposed as part of the health centre plan but I cannot find anything to say this is going ahead?
2/ Has a safe pick up/drop off zone been considered for this end of William St? This is a heavily used area in morning/afternoon peaks for parents to drop off school children catching buses (as well as other commuters). Parking is just one priority, a pick up/drop off zone is just as important.
3/ Is this car park going to be open 24hrs a day 7 days a week?
4/ Are there going to be designated spots for people using the health care facility?
Thank you for your inquiry.
At this stage it has not yet been determined if the exit at William St will be changed to both left and right hand turning. NSW Health Infrastructure will be working with Roads and Maritime Services (RMS) to investigate access & exit options to best suit the facility and road use.
Similarly with a pick up/drop off zone, I would recommend to contact NSW Health Infrastructure as they may be able to advise you what their plans are. The website is:
The B-Line Project team are working with NSW Health Infrastructure to ensure that the services and facilities we are constructing will support the Community Health Centre.
I can confirm that the new health facility will have parking for both B-Line Commuters and those using the Health Centre.
I am a regular visitor to Curl Curl (every couple of months, to visit family) and I love to ride my bike for everyday trips while I am here. I would be using the Brookvale parking station, and would like to know how many bikes will be able to be parked here. Will they be secure, like the Parkiteer cages that Bike Parking Experts install? These are terrific, and offer ongoing data on usage, which is very important for monitoring and predicting demand.
While the Brookvale commuter car park is being delivered by NSW Health as part of the Brookvale Community Health Centre, facilities for parking bicycles will be provided within the area as part of our Program.
I'll provide more specific information about the type and scope of parking as it become available further in the design process.
Will normal bus services continue to run alongside the B-Line services?
Yes, other local and express services will continue to operate. A new bus service plan for the whole northern beaches region is being developed, which will include the new B-Line service. Details of the new service plan will be made available to the community prior to the implementation of the new B-Line service in late 2017.
250 Car parks is the equivalent of 2 bus loads of people. How do you intend for everybody else get to the new the bus stop?
Where are the alternative options to using a car?
Shouldn't any new transport hub be built within a high density residential area to eliminate the issue of having to drive to the bus stop?
Any next generation solution needs to eliminate the requirement for car ownership, and be integrated into residential, retail and commercial zoning.
Demand for park and ride activity at each location was determined using travel to work data from the most recent census, and includes forecasts for growth in the workforce at catchment areas around each car park location. Increases in bus patronage encouraged by improved access to the B-Line service was also considered.
An assessment of potential modifications and additions to existing active transport elements has been undertaken to support the integration of active transport with the new service and infrastructure.
New bike facilities will be provided at each stop, reflecting the identified current need and future growth in demand for these facilities.