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B-Line services to commence at Narrabeen from Sunday 26 November

The B-Line provides frequent and reliable bus service operating between Mona Vale and Wynyard with 10 stops at Mona Vale, Warriewood, Narrabeen, Collaroy, Dee Why, Brookvale, Manly Vale, Spit Junction, Neutral Bay Junction and Wynyard, with services proposed to be extended to Newport in 2018.

B-Line bus services provide more seats, more on-board comfort and more services, more often. Other benefits include in-seat USB chargers and priority seating for people with accessibility needs.

There is no need to plan your trip on B-Line – it is a turn up and go service, 7 days a week, running from 4.30am until 12.30am.

With the introduction of B-Line, six new car parks, providing up to 900 new car spaces for commuters have been commissioned or are currently being constructed. Upon completion, each of these car parks will provide accessible parking, bike racks or sheds. Each car park has been designed for public transport customers to easily connect to a nearby transport hub or B-Line stop.

From the 26th November, commuter car parks will be open at Mona Vale, Narrabeen, Dee Why and Brookvale, with Warriewood and Manly Vale construction complete in 2018.

For further information about what works are underway in your area please ask a question via the Q&A tab below, email projects@transport.nsw.gov.au or call 1800 048 751.

B-Line services to commence at Narrabeen from Sunday 26 November

The B-Line provides frequent and reliable bus service operating between Mona Vale and Wynyard with 10 stops at Mona Vale, Warriewood, Narrabeen, Collaroy, Dee Why, Brookvale, Manly Vale, Spit Junction, Neutral Bay Junction and Wynyard, with services proposed to be extended to Newport in 2018.

B-Line bus services provide more seats, more on-board comfort and more services, more often. Other benefits include in-seat USB chargers and priority seating for people with accessibility needs.

There is no need to plan your trip on B-Line – it is a turn up and go service, 7 days a week, running from 4.30am until 12.30am.

With the introduction of B-Line, six new car parks, providing up to 900 new car spaces for commuters have been commissioned or are currently being constructed. Upon completion, each of these car parks will provide accessible parking, bike racks or sheds. Each car park has been designed for public transport customers to easily connect to a nearby transport hub or B-Line stop.

From the 26th November, commuter car parks will be open at Mona Vale, Narrabeen, Dee Why and Brookvale, with Warriewood and Manly Vale construction complete in 2018.

For further information about what works are underway in your area please ask a question via the Q&A tab below, email projects@transport.nsw.gov.au or call 1800 048 751.

Questions asked here may be published with the answer at the project team's discretion and in accordance with the privacy policy. If you wish to ask a question privately, please contact us


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  • Are there any plans to change transit lanes to be either bus lanes or bus only lanes anywhere along the B-line route? Where is this documented? I am only asking because I read a letter from a reader in today's Many Daily that said this was happening but without any details.

    Kevin asked 4 days ago

    Hi Kevin,

    Thank you for your enquiry.

    From 15 January 2018, the existing citybound T3 lanes will be converted to bus lanes in the following sections:
    • along Burnt Bridge Creek Deviation (from Condamine Street to Sydney Road)
    • along Spit and Military Roads (from Spit Junction, Mosman to Watson Street, Neutral Bay)

    Converting sections of the T3 into an AM peak bus lane between Balgowlah and Neutral Bay will help improve bus service reliability, which in turn help keep the Northern Beaches, Lower North Shore and Sydney moving.

    The new citybound bus lanes will operate during the morning peak period from 6am to 10am weekdays.

    More information on the new bus lanes can be found on the December community updates on the Mosman, Neutral Bay or Cremorne webpages.

    If you have any more questions, please do not hesitate to contact the project team again.

    Kind regards,

    May


  • These beautiful busses are getting very dirty passengers have had to deal with empty takeaway drink contsiners and cans that contained alcohol from the previous nite. Could someone please clean the windows so we can enjoy the view?

    Doug Scriven asked 4 days ago

    Hi Doug,

    Thank you for your feedback.

    We appreciate you letting us know and will be passing on this feedback to our bus operators to address accordingly.

    To find out more information or to plan your journey, visit transportnsw.info or for up to date traffic conditions, visit livetraffic.com.

    If you have any more questions, please do not hesitate to contact the project team again.

    Kind regards,

    Kelsey 


  • I wish to park and ride from mona vale but parking is limited after 7am. Even worse when golf days are running. Are you going to add parking at mona vale?

    Doug Scriven asked 4 days ago

    Hi Doug,

    Thank you for your enquiry. 

    The commuter car park at Beeby Reserve, Mona Vale opened on Sunday 26 November 2017 to coincide with the start of B-Line services, and offers 74 dedicated commuter car parking spaces.

    Additional parking at Mona Vale is not currently part of the project scope, however along the corridor, up to 900 new commuter car spaces have been commissioned or are currently being constructed. 

    Thanks, 

    Stevi

  • Dear Ben, Megan and Rob, I am a local resident of Newport and I have recently become aware of the proposal to extend the B-line to Newport. While it’s exciting that there are proposals being put forward for the future improvement of public transport on the beaches, I wish to use this letter to highlight elements of the project to which I fundamentally object. It is my hope that you will consider this letter carefully and let it guide your final decision regarding the proposed extension. Let me start by saying I am not against the improvement of public transport for Newport, or the Northern Beaches generally. However, I believe that any improvements or changes to the existing services need to be assessed very carefully on their merits as to their suitability weighing the potential negative impacts while also considering all other viable alternatives. Importantly, any improvements should fulfil (in a superior way to existing services) the current and future needs of Newport as a whole. The current proposal, I believe, does none of these things. The proposal simply does not hold up when assessed critically on its merits. I understand that the proposed extension is fully funded, however this alone is not a sufficient reason to proceed with the proposal. I understand that the current ‘favoured proposal’ is for the installation of a round-about at the intersection of Neptune Road and Barrenjoey Road. Alone with the widening of the road to accommodate ‘laying up’ of buses during peak times. Below is a list of issues which the proposal raises: List of issues with the proposal as it is currently presented (this list is by no means conclusive) Significant negative impact to the residents who live along Barrenjoey Road, particularly those on each of the corners of Neptune and Barrenjoey Roads and also the two houses further North along Barrenjoey where access to their homes with either be significantly impeded or blocked entirely. Nobody wants 100 buses a day turning around essentially in their front yard! Significant negative environmental impact owing to the removal of 100-year-old iconic Norfolk Island Pine Trees. Your own staff have expressed ‘concern’ for these trees at the public consultation meetings. Significant negative impact on traffic flows in a Northbound and Southbound direction along Barrenjoey Road. There is already heavy congestion on this road and adding a further impediment to traffic flow (a roundabout) will only make matters worse and move the congestion back into Newport and back around the bends. This will have a profoundly negative impact on residents of Newport and Avalon. Again, your own staff admit that they won’t consider extending the B-Line to Avalon because the existing congestion issues make the service too unreliable. Adding commuter parking to the beach carpark (as an unofficial ‘Park and Ride’) will cause a significant loss of amenity for regular users of the carpark including but not limited to parents taking their children to the new park which was completed this year, as well as local members of the community who use the carpark daily to gain access to the local shops and businesses. All of whom will suffer if their patrons cannot park near their businesses. ‘Stacking or laying up’ of 3 or more buses in the proposed widened dedicated lanes creates an unnecessary eyesore of bright yellow double decker buses. Significantly detracting from the existing natural beauty of the area. The combination of the increased frequency of buses and the roundabout will mean traffic congestion is significantly worsened. Turning the buses at the proposed roundabout means that there will be a significantly increased level of noise pollution from the buses for residents and pedestrians in that area. Other considerations, options and potential solutions The original plan of bringing the B-Line to Mona Vale seems to me to be a well-considered and appropriate choice for the development of significant additional public transport infrastructure. Mona Vale has long been considered the ‘town centre’ of the part of the Northern Beaches so on that measure alone it is a sensible choice. Additionally, the lack of residential housing in Mona Vale also means the impact on local residents (and their quiet enjoyment of the homes) is considerably less than in Newport. State Transit also already owns assets (the existing bus depot on Darley Street) which could be used to house commuter car parking as well as the fact that the semi industrial nature of the businesses means the buses could turned around without and significant impact to existing traffic flows. In terms of addressing the needs of Newport now and into the future, I believe a revised updated and improved schedule to meet the capacity and travel time needs of residents between Newport and Palm Beach is what is needed. After all that’s what was going to happen when the B-Line was originally proposed to terminate at Mona Vale. I implore you to consider this feedback carefully. Newport’s unique geography is not suitable for the proposed infrastructure development. Far more suitable options (with far fewer negative impacts) exist in Mona Vale. Regards Hayden

    HKerr asked 18 days ago

    Hello Hayden,

    Thanks for your message and apologies for my delay in getting back to you. I have responded to you today via email.

    Many thanks,

    Kristina

  • Why have you completely screwed up the bus service to the northern beaches?! Are you trying to discourage commuters? Are you backed by the petrol industry? My commute now takes 30 mins LONGER EACH WAY? What compensation are you offering? Will you be paying us for the time you’ve stolen from our lives? There is nothing good about your plan. No wonder you make it almost impossible for commuters to give feedback - an admission the new system is utterly flawed. Guessing you won’t be publishing this and all the other negative feedback to your website. Will you even respond?

    Sherryn asked 18 days ago

    Hi Sherryn,

    I understand it can be frustrating to lose a service, especially if your new one has added time to your trip.Please enter your journey details into the tool on this page to ensure you’re aware of all services available to you.

    Depending where you’re located, there is also an On Demand service available to collect you from your house and deliver your closest B-Line stop.

    If you’d like to discuss changes to services other than the B-Line, please call Transport for New South Wales on 131 500. 

    Thanks, 

    Stevi


  • Original paperwork I was given months ago by the B Line people stated that peak hour buses would be operating every 5 to 10 minutes. We waited 16 minutes for a bus at 8.40 this morning at the Warriewood Car Park bus stop. There were 12 people by the time the bus arrived. The Information Board was also incorrect, saying a bus was coming in 1 minute at 8.40. This disappeared and it then showed 10 minutes but it ended up being 16 minutes.

    trinamon1 asked 21 days ago

    Hi Trinamon1,

    Thank you for your enquiry.

    As you are aware, we are currently in the early stages of the launch of the B-Line service which has have been operating since Sunday 26 November. We are currently addressing issues which have be brought to our attention which should settle as B-Line progresses.

    Data that is supplied on the Passenger Information Displays (PIDs) is based on the data picked up from the bus in service.  If a driver hasn’t logged on to the service (i.e. the driver is finishing his current service, or the driver hasn’t got on the bus at the depot) the service time will come up with “real data unavailable” and will pull the arrival time from the timetabled data.   This is particular common in some of the later services shown on the PIDs, where the driver has simply not finished his journey and logged on to the new journey listed on the PID. This results in PIDs (at stops) sometimes not being aligned with apps and actual bus arrival times. This also results in some buses arriving out of the blue or never arriving at all.

    All bus services aim to arrive on time every time, every day. However, due to unforeseen traffic issues, peak hour congestion and road incidents, you can appreciate that sometimes services may run a little earlier or later than normal.

    To find out more information or to plan your journey, visit transportnsw.info or for up to date traffic conditions, visit livetraffic.com.

    If you have any more questions, please do not hesitate to contact the project team again.

    Kind regards,

    Kelsey  


  • Hi , hardly any buses are stopping at stop number 210021(the Pittwater Road, Harbord Rd intersection) - there approxinately 15 city commuters at this stop with me now at 8:10am getting very frustrated to see 10+ ‘Wynyard’ buses drive straight past this key stop. We have currently been waiting 15 minutes for E78/79 where usually we have ample options- it’s not good enough for the morning commute. Are there any other options from this stop? Ie getting an alternative bus to a b-line stop ? Please do advise if there is some other route. This stop is at a key intersection serving warringah road residents, Harbord Road, Brookvale and Freshwater commuters. Please take this feedback on board after this trial period

    Laura asked 19 days ago

    Hi Laura,

    Thanks for providing  your feedback to the B-Line Project  Team.

    From the stop you're referring to, customers can catch the E78 and E79 direct to the City during the peak or 178 or 180 during off peak.
    Customers can also catch 199 or 185 and transfer at Warringah Mall for B1 or other express services.

    I hope this information helps. 

    Thanks,

    Stevi



  • Hi there, I’m just wondering what the reasoning was to not extend the b line to avalon/palm beach. By stopping this service you are making it very difficult for city commuters who live further than newport/mona vale to get home. Especially at night after the e88 service has finished. Why are we expected to get off the bus and wait in a potentially unsafe place late at night to be able to get home. Im also wondering Why has the e88 service been made less regular after 6 if you have taken away the L90 from people living further than Mona Vale? The e88 service has been made more regular in the morning which is great but how are we all supposed to make it home?!

    Victoriafarr1 asked 20 days ago

    Hi Victoria,

    Thanks for getting in touch.

    Regarding bus services north of Newport, there was previous investigation about B-Line potentially going to Avalon but that proposal did not proceed as the reliability of the B-Line service could not be guaranteed with traffic in the Bilgola Bends.

    The B-Line has begun operating to Mona Vale and are working toward it going to Newport in 2018.

    The L90 continues to run in off peak and weekends. The E88 and E89 peak services are all still running unchanged. The new 199 bus from Palm Beach to Manly coincides with B-Line stops all the way to Warringah Mall.


    Please call 131 500 to talk to a Transport for New South Wales employee who’ll be able to address service plan questions that aren’t related to the B-Line.

    Alternatively you can visit their contact page: https://transportnsw.info/contact-us


    Many thanks,

    Kristina


  • Hi There seems to be no space for general feedback although it says get involved Newport market day today and everyone I spoke to is not in favour of the bline extension to Newport. In peak period buses coming through at 4 minute intervals through newport village will be a nightmare let alone turning them at the proposed roundabout at Neptune street The buildup of traffics both north and south will be a real issue for local traffic Leave the bline terminating and turning around at Mona Vale bus depot I don’t need an answer I just want it registered that I like many others don’t want the bline extension to newport

    Rjcurtis asked 22 days ago

    Hi Rob,

    Thank you for your enquiry regarding the Newport extension of the B-Line and our proposal to construct a roundabout on the corner of Neptune and Barrenjoey Roads, near the Surf Club car park. I know you said you don’t need a reply but I would like to acknowledge your comment.

    It is important to recognise this is a concept design that we are inviting community feedback on before any detailed designs are made and any official proposal is put forward. 

    Your feedback will be considered by the project team and used to prepare a concept plan that will be assessed in a Review of Environmental Factors. (REF) This document will go on public display and will be available for consultation early next year.

    The project team will be in touch to let you know when the REF is available to view. In the meantime please stay up to date via our website at http://yoursay.b-line.transport.nsw.gov.au/newport.

    If you would like to speak with the project team to discuss the proposal further then please get in touch again via the website above, email projects@transport.nsw.gov.au, or call us on 1800 048 751.

    Kind regards,

    Kristina


  • Hello Kristina, Thank you for your response below to my original question(s). I have clicked on the link you suggested below and whist I can see pages of PROPAGANDA and I cannot find the document that I requested "a business case and clear justification for the need to run and terminate the B-Line at the idyllic Newport beachfront" - which leads me to conclude it just doesn't exist. Terminate the B-Line at Mona Vale in the perfectly good bus terminal that already exists. Regards, Glenn Hello Kristina, I originally asked a question on the 20th September - I have yet to receive a response. I them asked the same question, again on the 16th October - I have yet to receive a response,. I then spoke with you in person (outside of Coles in Newport) on the 26th October and you stated you would investigate and respond to my concerns and request for transparency in the decision making process - I have yet to receive a response. I have clearly stated on all three occasions that there must be "a business case and clear justification for the need to run and terminate the B-Line at the idyllic Newport beachfront". Thus based upon your inability to respond, I can therefore only believe that these documents don't exist or if they do they don't support an extension to Newport. I have decided that based upon you failure to respond I will be forwarding this email to Mr Rob Stokes and also the newly elected Northern Beaches Councillors, amongst others. To sum up I believe there is no justification to extend the B-Line to Newport. It should be terminated at Mona Vale at a perfectly suitable and already working bus depot that already exists. Regards, Glenn glennmoore asked 25 days ago Hello Glenn, Thank you for your question and apologies for the delayed response. The business case for the B-Line centres around the primary objective to improve public transport on the Northern Beaches. The primary objective of the B-Line program extending to Newport is to improve the public transport offering to Newport and surrounding communities. The extension of B-Line to Newport in 2018 will provide a more frequent bus service to the community, for travel within the Northern Beaches, Lower North Shore and Sydney CBD. Key stakeholders, including Northern Beaches Council, were supportive of the decision to extend based on community concern over the degree of interchange required for customers north of Mona Vale due to frequency and reliability. There have been detailed documents outlining the project uploaded to our website throughout the project, including the complete Reviews of Environmental Factors which went on public display and Determination Reports for each stop along the B-Line. These can be found here: http://b-line.transport.nsw.gov.au/environment-and-planning If you have any other questions please don’t hesitate to ask. Many thanks, Kristina

    glennmoore asked 21 days ago

    Hello Glenn,

    Thanks for getting in touch again. The business case and objectives of the project are clearly outlined in numerous documents in the environment and planning section of the website, as I directed you on 3 November. 

    The main objective of the project is to provide improved public transport for the Northern Beaches.

    This project is a large investment in the Northern Beaches and has been functioning well in its first week. I hope you can enjoy a ride on the B-Line at some point soon. 

    Kind regards,

    Kristina


  • are u aloud bikes on the new B-line as there are a wide variety of seating on the new B-line

    elijahcf asked 22 days ago

    Hi elijahcf,

    Bicycles cannot be taken on buses because they are difficult to stow without inconveniencing or potentially endangering other passengers.

    For more information on what equipment can and cannot be taken on-board, please visit Transport for New South Wales 'Travelling with bikes and surfboards' page

    Thanks, 

    Stevi

  • New B-Line buses servicing the B1 route on the northern beaches. The lights in the bus at night are incredibly bright and uncomfortable. There should be an automatic night setting. Bright lights in a bus at night can limit the passengers view outside the bus - contributing to travel sickness and an overly un-enjoyable experience.

    Rob487 asked 20 days ago

    Hi Rob,

    Thank you for your enquiry.

    For the visibility and safety of all passengers and bus drivers, the light levels on the B-Line buses are set to regular lighting standards. This lighting standard ensures that the bus is adequately lit for passenger movements and minimises risks such as tripping on steps, luggage or bags carried by passengers.

    To find out more information on the B-Line services or to plan your journey, visit transportnsw.info or for up to date traffic conditions, visit livetraffic.com.

    If you have any more questions, please do not hesitate to contact the project team again.

    Kind regards,

    Kelsey  


  • It seems the new bus changes benefit only those commuting from The Northern Beaches into the CBD. I work in local business in Balgowlah, and commute from Cromer. I used to get the 179 route at 06.01am and the journey would take 25 minutes. The new changes require me to do an 18 minute walk, get TWO buses, then walk 15 minutes the other end to get to work. According to Trip Planner my journey has literally doubled. It means leaving the house at 5.30am, and to walk through dark streets at this time in the Winter will concern me. We are a one car family, and try to balance the family needs with a combination of car and local transport use. As the area grows, so will local business and work opportunities. Therefore it seems incredibly disappointing that people working locally are going to lose out with these transport changes that are fixated on benefiting CBD workers. Why have local services been taken away, and what is going to be done to support local workers being able to get to work in a reasonable amount of time? Liz

    lizgray2000 asked 24 days ago
    Hi Liz, 

    Thank you for your enquiry. 

    From what location in Cromer do you normally catch your buses from? Where in Balgowlah do you get off? We can help you plan your best trip via Trip Planner. 

    To find out more information or to plan your journey, visit transportnsw.info or for up to date traffic conditions, visit livetraffic.com. 

    If you have any more questions, please do not hesitate to contact the project team again. 

    Kind regards, 
    Kelsey
  • Hi there, I was wondering how you now expect residents of Newport to get to work in the city each day? The E87 and L88 have been removed and the L90 is hardly running at all, and not at peak times either. It appears my only option now is to walk 20 minutes to the main road to get a bus to mona vale to get the B line. This seems unacceptable and unfeasible and actually adds a significant amount of time to my commute.

    amywin asked 26 days ago

    Hi amywin,

    Thanks for your enquiry.

    The E87 and E88 have not been removed. These peak services will remain and have even been increased in number at some times. The L90 is also still running in off peak times and on weekends.

    There is also the new 199 bus between Palm Beach and Manly which links up along much of the B-Line corridor to Warringah Mall, allowing for people to change easily to the service.

    I hope you take the time to enjoy a ride on the B-Line. If you have any other questions please don’t hesitate to get in touch.

    Many thanks,

    Kristina


  • Hi B-Line Why does only the bus driver get a seat belt on the new B-line buses? I know it would be impossible to enforce but I for one would like the option to buckle up.

    Mike441 asked about 1 month ago

    Hello Mike,

    Thanks for your question. 

    There will be no seatbelts on B-Line buses, the same as any other Sydney bus. 

    Many thanks,

    Kristina

  • Why are you putting in the B-Line? People from Mona Vale going north now have to drive or take 2 buses to get to the city increasing the time it will take them. They then will have to wait till they can get a seat on a bus. As most infrastructure or car parks will not be ready by the 26th November 2017 when the B-Line kicks off, where are people suppose to park their cars to catch the B-Line? There are no services to cover all those people's previous routes.... The yellow buses are not allowed to overtake, so how does that work when buses are already banked up behind push bikes in the bus lane? The double decker buses are slower to load and unload, making for late running times. Have any of you been on the yellow buses? People with any height can not stand up upstairs, or down the back seat down stairs. There are no stop buttons in the front lower 1/2 of the bus. The swaying up stairs will make people car/sea sick and if your claustrophobic you will not want to be upstairs. The stair case is narrow. No one with a big butt will fit comfortably in the little seats.... shall I go on? Not to mention the environmental destruction that is taking place to accommodate the B-Line. Has anyone actually counted the number of trees cut down for this venture? There were at least 70 just between Mosman and Neutral Bay! The increased traffic congestion from the continual work for the B-Line The huge cost of tax payers money for a brand new system that is not going to make much of a difference (6 minutes) to commuters getting to the city. Something that could be achieved by making a buses only bus lane during peak time! Seriously, these are just a few issues..... So I ask again, why are you putting in the B-Line???

    dorisluvie asked about 1 month ago

    Hi Doris,

    Thanks for your enquiry about the B-Line and service plan changes.

    In answer to your overall question, we have put in the B-Line to bring better public transport to the residents of the Northern Beaches. This area of Sydney is well known for needing better public transport options and the project was designed to deliver this.

    The B-Line has launched successfully this week and I’m pleased to say the car parks in the northern half of the corridor at Mona Vale and Narrabeen are open. The car park at Warriewood is still under construction and will be opening in sections over the coming months.

    The need to change buses to go further north past Mona Vale is something we have acknowledged and spoken with the community groups in the area about. While I understand this will require some people to change their current travel habits, the extension of the B-Line to Newport next year will be a significant development, getting more people closer to the reliable, direct service to the City.

    The double deck buses are brand new and allow for increased capacity for residents of the Northern Beaches to move up and down the B-Line corridor. The size and scale allows a safe and comfortable journey for more than 80 people at a time.

    Construction work at some B-Line stops will continue over the coming months, but we are very proud to have completed most of the work and have all the bus stops operational. I hope you take the time to enjoy a ride on the B-Line.

    Many thanks,

    Kristina


  • Hello B-line, What happens if there is a problem with one of the B-line buses? Since they can not be towed or put on a truck, and can not go off the main road, how do they get fixed or back to the depot? Will the other B-line buses be able to drive as they are NOT allowed to overtake?

    dorisluvie asked 24 days ago

    Hi Doris,

    Thank you for your enquiry.

    If one of the B-Line double decker buses was to breakdown or forced to emergency stop, the process is similar to any other vehicles. The hazard lights would be turned on as soon as an issue was identified or a bus is stopped to alert all other buses on that route of the incident so they are aware to overtake. In emergency situations, overtaking is allowed.

    Double decker buses can be towed by either draw bar or lift towed. Following the initial incident, a broken down or damaged bus would be towed back to the Mona Vale depot for fixing as soon as possible, for the convenience of other buses and road users.

    To find out more information or to plan your journey, visit transportnsw.info or for up to date traffic conditions, visit livetraffic.com.

    If you have any more questions, please do not hesitate to contact the project team again.

    Kind regards,

    Kelsey  


  • Hello, how is the B-line going to start on Monday when the car parks you are suppose to drive to are not completed and the B-line bust stops are not completed????? How will it run when there are not enough buses or drivers to run the B-line?

    dorisluvie asked 24 days ago

    Hi Doris,

    B-Line services will commence from 26 November.

    Commuter car parking will be available from the following locations on 26 November:

    ·  PCYC Building, Civic Parade, Dee Why

    ·  Corner of Pittwater Road and William Street, Brookvale (opposite Warringah Mall)

    ·  Berry Reserve car park Pittwater Road, Narrabeen

    ·  Beeby Reserve car park corner of Barrenjoey Road and Golf Avenue, Mona Vale

    Commuter car parking at the North Narrabeen Reserve, Pittwater Road Warriewood, is currently under construction, scheduled to be operational in the coming months. Commuter car parking at Manly Vale, at the corner of Condamine Street and Kenneth Roads, is also under construction and is scheduled to be operational in May 2018.

    Kind regards,

    May

  • Hi, I'm a student from Manly Selective and it has come to the attention of our student council that there are around 100 student who travel to our school every day from the north sydney to mosman area by hopping on one of the various 180/178 type lines from various stops throughout the area the B Line wont stop at and get off the bus at Manly Leagues club, pittwater rd. With the introduction of the B Line many of these services are being removed. As we understand this is just a trial period we were wondering what you'd suggest these students do to get to school in the meantime?

    shalnan asked 24 days ago

    Hi Shalnan,

    The new bus timetables for the northern beaches and lower north will commence this Sunday 26 November, in conjunction with the start of the B-Line service. 

    There are no changes to bus routes 178 or 180.

    We would recommend students to use the trip planning app on Transportnsw.info website to see what their new journey will look like from this Sunday onwards.

    https://transportnsw.info/new-trip#/

    The webpage also lists the changes by route number.

    Hope this helps.

    Kind regards,

    May 


  • Hello, It takes over 30 minutes to get over the harbour bridge and into this one lane exit, then to get off the bus at Wynyard. What are you doing to address this bottle neck?! What is the point of adding these extra buses if people need to navigate climbing stairs making the bus exiting process longer and we still have the bottle neck coming off the bridge into Wynyard? Double decker buses will not change anything! Especially if there is simply more of them? There is still only one lane to get off the bridge and then get off the bus? Please explain? Thank you, Laura

    Laura.j.beaven asked 24 days ago

    Hi Laura,

    Thanks for your enquiry.

    The heaviest hour of traffic on the harbour bridge heading into the cbd is between 8 and 9am. With the commencement of the new timetables in a few days and start of the B-Line services, the number of buses arriving in the cbd will be maintained during this AM peak hour. Additional capacity in this peak time would be provided  by replacing short buses with double decker buses.

    Kind regards,

    May

  • Hi there, I have been a bus driver for the past 20yrs at a Nth beaches STA depot. If you are not going to give us a 24hr BUS ONLY lane inbound and outbound 24HRS 7 Days a week, your so called Rapid Bus Service will be a waste of time, money and will sadly fail. I am lead to believe you are going to get rid of the 3T lane Burnt Crk to Watson st Neutral bay which is a blessing and make it a Bus Only lane? It will also need to be consistently heavily policed and flooded with permeant bus lane cameras. If you don't, it will look like any other day but just with a big splash of yellow double deckers one after each other like any other day. Parked cars and illegal use of bus lanes kill our running time….

    mrcoops asked about 2 months ago

    Hi Coops,

    Thank you for your feedback. Morning peak hour bus lanes running through Mosman, Cremorne and Neutral Bay are scheduled to begin early next year. The bus lanes will operate from 6-10am. 

    ~ May

  • Why did you cut all the L85 off and now only 185 in half? This will deeply affect my working life. I have to get to Warriwood Jubilee Avenue and both these busses are what I take and on a single day I take both, I also use them to get straight to and from the city. This is going to waste a lot of my time waiting around and having to make up hours due to lack of busses. Also making the trip to the city take twice as long. Please change it back!

    Snsw12 asked 26 days ago

    Hi Snsw12,

    I can understand your disappointment if your regular services  are  being modified or replaced. 

    Please visit Transport for New  South Wales’ 'My New Trip' page and  enter your journey details to view the services most convenient for your trip (as well as service details, including closest bus stops, estimated journey time, opal costs and connection  details  if a transfer is required).

    A PDF copy of  timetable  changes is available  for download here, or alternatively you can enter route details at this TfNSW page to view service details, including bus stops and  maps. 

    I'd suggest contacting Transport for New South Wales through this page if you'd like to discuss the alteration of services other than the B-Line further. 

    Thanks, 

    Stevi

  • Hi there I was wondering what happened to the planned left hand turn lane from Pittwater rd into cross st brookvale? Seemed like a couple of months wasted with closing the curbside lane along Pittwater rd before cross st causing major traffic delays and now seems like it isn't going ahead? With B line just around the corner, this was already causing traffic chaos, now it will be a traffic nightmare!

    Sjsmazda3 asked about 1 month ago

    Dear Sjs,

    Thank you for  getting in touch.

    From now until the new year,  works will not be carried in order to minimise impacts during busy shopping times.

    Works will recommence in the new year with the dedicated left turn lane in to Cross Street to be completed in early 2018.

    Kind regards,

    May


  • Hi B-Line I have been told by several bus drivers that the new B-Line buses are not able to travel in the bus lanes. The height of the bus, proximity of poles to the curb & camber of the road all combine to make it too dangerous because of the risk of impact with poles. Is this true?

    Mike441 asked about 1 month ago

    Hi Mike,

    This is untrue. The B-Line buses are able to travel in the bus lanes and have been doing trial runs along the B-Line route.

    ~ May

  • A specific question: can you please indicate how many carparking spaces are estimated to be required at Newport Beach to accommodate the increasing numbers of commuters accessing the B-Line terminus at Newport? Many thanks.

    Emma asked about 2 months ago

    Hi Emma,

    Thank you for your feedback on the Newport extension of the B-Line. It is much appreciated.

    There is no proposed commuter-only car park at Newport Beach. Transport for NSW is not looking have any spaces in the Surf Club car park allocated for bus users. 

    Your Newport feedback will be considered by the project team and used to prepare a concept plan that will be assessed in a Review of Environmental Factors. (REF) This document will go on public display and will be available for consultation early next year.

    The project team will be in touch to let you know when the REF is available to view. In the meantime please stay up to date via our website at http://yoursay.b-line.transport.nsw.gov.au/newport.

    If you would like to speak with the project team to discuss the proposal further then please get in touch again via the website above, email projects@transport.nsw.gov.au, or call us on 1800 048 751.

    Thanks,

    Kristina


  • Hello, I am writing to question whether anyone from transport NSW has witnessed the traffic congestion at the roundabout on the corner of Roseberry st & Kenneth rd Manly Vale. The Northern Beaches Council traffic control department has informed me that any traffic congestion surrounding the new B-Line carpark is no longer something that they can assist with and it now falls back to transport NSW. In the morning and evening, Mon-Fri and all day Saturday, traffic is backed up past this roundabout as there is only one lane in each direction. This problem has always existed though is now at breaking point with the influx of cars and will only become worse when the B-Line carpark actually opens. The design of the carpark funnels all entering and exiting cars to Kenneth rd only, which means all cars will need to use the roundabout on Kenneth rd & Roseberry st everytime when exiting. Traffic will be absolute chaos if there are no changes before the carpark opens. The idea of having a carpark is so that people can access it, to then park and take a bus ride. If cars are unable to easily access the carpark due to traffic congestion, the carpark wont be utilized. Both Kenneth rd & Roseberry st need to have the road widened to allow two lanes in both directions. Another problem that is also present now and will increase when the carpark is opened, is that all cars on Kenneth rd approaching Condamine st can only go 'straight ahead' across Condamine st, if they are in the right lane only. This then creates a backing up of vehicles past the roundabout. Cars wanting to go 'straight ahead' should be allowed to do so from the left lane as well. This intersection is probably now the most congested on the Northern Beaches and will be chaos if left as is.

    DANIEL GOODSIR asked about 2 months ago

    Hello Daniel,

    Thank you getting in touch with us.

    Works are currently underway to widen sections of Kenneth Road in order to accommodate carpark access and reduce traffic congestion.

    A straight and right turn lane in to Condamine Street from Kenneth Road  is currently being constructed which will allow for traffic to separate in to dedicated lanes and reduce queuing. The left turn lane will also remain in place  .

    Kenneth Road will remain one lane eastbound and access to the carpark will be a left in, left out arrangement only.

    We will continue monitor the traffic  flow in this area once works are completed and the car park is operational.

    If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to get in touch.

    ~Melissa


  • Hi Kristina Please supply either on this site or via letter drop ALL options that are being considered for the bus turn around at Newport? it is simply unacceptable to letter drop some half baked idea that will not work "as the community consultation " with follow up meeting to discuss. please post all options that have been considered, are being considered and the reasons why this is the one you put forward as the preferred option? really putting a round about at this location is ridiculous, there is not enough space to turn around a bus far less manage the traffic flows that are already there without the increase of people travlling to newport to get the B line from further north, is is a smaller area that the roundabout above the Bilgola bends!! do you think we as Newport residents are stupid? because it feels like we are being treated that way by " the B line Team" . please do not give me some "spin" answer, but instead release or publish all options that have been considered and are being considered by the B line team, before community meeting next week? David

    Dave asked 2 months ago

    Hi David,

    Thank you for your feedback on the Newport extension of the B-Line and our proposal to construct a roundabout on the corner of Neptune and Barrenjoey Roads, near the Surf Club car park. 

    It is important to recognise this is a concept design that we are inviting community feedback on before any detailed designs are made and any official proposal is put forward. 

    I understand your concerns regarding traffic around the Newport area and I have passed this on to the traffic team for their consideration.

    The other options for turning buses around in Newport were shared with key stakeholder groups in Newport, including the Residents Association, Surf Club and local Council. All of these were taken off the table due to having too much impact on the community.

    The proposed roundabout at Neptune and Barrenjoey Roads would have the lease community impact, which is why it is being taken to the community now for feedback.

    Your feedback will be considered by the project team and used to prepare a concept plan that will be assessed in a Review of Environmental Factors. (REF) This document will go on public display and will be available for consultation early next year.

    The project team will be in touch to let you know when the REF is available to view. In the meantime please stay up to date via our website at http://yoursay.b-line.transport.nsw.gov.au/newport.

    If you would like to speak with the project team to discuss the proposal further then please get in touch again via the website above, emailprojects@transport.nsw.gov.au, or call us on1800 048 751.

    Kind regards,

    Kristina


  • Hello Kristina, I originally asked a question on the 20th September - I have yet to receive a response. I them asked the same question, again on the 16th October - I have yet to receive a response,. I then spoke with you in person (outside of Coles in Newport) on the 26th October and you stated you would investigate and respond to my concerns and request for transparency in the decision making process - I have yet to receive a response. I have clearly stated on all three occasions that there must be "a business case and clear justification for the need to run and terminate the B-Line at the idyllic Newport beachfront". Thus based upon your inability to respond, I can therefore only believe that these documents don't exist or if they do they don't support an extension to Newport. I have decided that based upon you failure to respond I will be forwarding this email to Mr Rob Stokes and also the newly elected Northern Beaches Councillors, amongst others. To sum up I believe there is no justification to extend the B-Line to Newport. It should be terminated at Mona Vale at a perfectly suitable and already working bus depot that already exists. Regards, Glenn

    glennmoore asked about 2 months ago

    Hello Glenn,

    Thank you for your question and apologies for the delayed response.

    The business case for the B-Line centres around the primary objective to improve public transport on the Northern Beaches. The primary objective of the B-Line program extending to Newport is to improve the public transport offering to Newport and surrounding communities. The extension of B-Line to Newport in 2018 will provide a more frequent bus service to the community, for travel within the Northern Beaches, Lower North Shore and Sydney CBD.

    Key stakeholders, including Northern Beaches Council, were supportive of the decision to extend based on community concern over the degree of interchange required for customers north of Mona Vale due to frequency and reliability.

    There have been detailed documents outlining the project uploaded to our website throughout the project, including the complete Reviews of Environmental Factors which went on public display and Determination Reports for each stop along the B-Line. These can be found here: http://b-line.transport.nsw.gov.au/environment-and-planning

    If you have any other questions please don’t hesitate to ask.

    Many thanks,

    Kristina


  • I attended the B-Line Information evening at Cammeray Golf Club last Thursday evening and heard the project team explain that the trees that have been felled along Military Road will be replaced April/May next year with mature trees 3-4m in height that have straight trunks and are not inclined to grow into the road space. I was satisfied with this as we awoke one morning to the sudden loss of both trees outside our apartment window, and feel the loss of greenery and privacy keenly. The trees are sorely missed. So you can imagine my dismay this week when I walked past the place where the trees used to stand and found them covered in asphalt. Will the asphalt be ripped up next year and new trees planted as promised? Or is this an indication that the trees will not be replaced? Kate

    Kate Plokstys asked about 2 months ago

    Dear Kate,

    Thanks for your query. 

    No, the asphalt is just to reinstate the ground level so it does not pose a safety risk. The plan is to commence replanting next year as mentioned in the info session.

    ~May

  • To what extent will the bus services to Collaroy Plateau be affected (179 and 180)? Plateaudweller

    byronhouse asked about 2 months ago

    Hi Plateaudweller,

    Thanks for getting in touch with the B-Line Project Team. 

    There will be no changes to route 180 and route 179 will no longer operate. 
    New route 146 will replace route 179 between Wheeler Heights and Warringah Mall. For travel to the city, you can transfer to B-Line services at Warringah Mall. 

    You can check out services available to you on the Transport for New South Wales website and plan your trip today on services that'll commence after November 26th. 

    I hope this information helps! 

    Thanks, 

    Stevi

  • Where are the fare listed or is this a secret because of cost blowouts?

    Frewy asked about 2 months ago

    Hi Frewy,

    Fares for your bus journey can be reviewed on Trip Planner at transportnsw.info.

    If you enter your origin and destination to review your journey, the cost using you Opal card will appear in the results.

    Bus fares on B-Line will be the same as all bus journeys and are determined by distance.

    ~ Melanie

  • Hi there, With the B-Line, will additional services be running through Manly Vale?For the last two weeks I've had to stand on the bus everyday when getting on at Manly Vale. It is not just one bus either, this is a combination of E78, E77, E76, E66, and E79. I use the bus stop on Condamine Street between Campbell Parade and Gordon Street. With the implementation of the new B-Line it will only increase people taking the bus, but the current services are just not coping with the demand. Frequently the buses can't even stop because they are so full. Please can you advise your plan for additional buses going through Manly Vale. Look forward to hearing from you. Kind regards Rachel Kirkwood

    Rachel Kirkwood asked 5 months ago

    Hi Rachel,

    Thanks for reaching out.

    The B-Line will provide a more frequent, reliable, turn-up-and-go bus service for passengers travelling between Newport and the Sydney CBD.

    The B-Line service will run through Manly Vale every 5 minutes during peak periods, and every 10 minutes all week until 11pm (with final services commencing at 12.30pm).

    With the additional services running through Manly Vale and the extra capacity the double decker busses cater for, demand is expected to be met and travel time improved.

    There will be new northbound and southbound B-Line bus stops on Condamine Street, north of Kenneth Road, featuring weather protection, seating and real-time information.

    You can view the latest Manly Vale construction update here.

    Please get in touch if we can answer any more questions.

    Thanks,

    Stevi

  • When will you take notice of the general public and realise that they think this totally unnecessary(total time saved being 6 minutes) and will cause incredible traffic jams for the people in Newport and to the north especially at peak hours and the weekends? When will you tell the public that you are going to privatise the B-line and tell them the all to familiar story that the cost of travelling will be cheaper( nothing that has been privatised has become cheaper, the latest being electricity)? When will you realise that the people that have lived here all their lives do not want this sort of unproductive quest to alter the place they love detrimentally all in the name of progress(I use the term sarcastically)?

    no b-line asked 2 months ago

    Hi Glenn,

    Thank you for your feedback on the Newport extension of the B-Line.

    As you have likely seen in the past week we have put forward a preferred option to the Newport community to construct a roundabout on the corner of Neptune and Barrenjoey Roads. It is important to recognise this is a concept design that we are inviting community feedback on before any detailed designs are made and any official proposal is put forward.

    I understand your concerns regarding traffic around the Newport area and I have passed this on to the traffic team for their consideration.

    There are no plans to privatise the B-Line. This project is being run by Transport for New South Wales and marks a very large investment in Northern Beaches transport. It will be accessed via Opal card the same as any other bus/train/ferry.

    The B-line will be operating from 26 November this year, and we are hoping to have Newport B-Line services from late 2018. In the meantime we are taking this time to invite community feedback and I thank you for taking the time to share your concerns.  

    We have some community sessions in the coming weeks which I hope you can drop in to if you have some time. The first is this Saturday 12pm-2pm at the Surf Club.

    Your feedback will be considered by the project team and used to prepare a concept plan that will be assessed in a Review of Environmental Factors. (REF) This document will go on public display and will be available for consultation early next year.

    The project team will be in touch to let you know when the REF is available to view. In the meantime please stay up to date via our website at http://yoursay.b-line.transport.nsw.gov.au/newport.

    If you would like to speak with the project team to discuss the proposal further then please get in touch again via the website above, email projects@transport.nsw.gov.au, or call us on 1800 048 751.

    Kind regards,

    Kristina


  • Will the current express services to the city still operate? If they will, will the routes and timetables be modified? I'm specifically asking about the E76 and E77, but I'm sure others would like to know about their express service. If they will be modified, can you provide specifics about the modifications?

    wendy.currie1 asked 2 months ago

    Hi Wendy,

    Thanks for your query. 

    The Transport info website has been updated so you can view all the changes by mode, or use the trip planner to plan how your trip will look like from 26 November onwards.

    https://transportnsw.info/#/

    ~ May


  • A follow up question with the stopping patterns of the B-Line bus. Will priority be given at Wynyard to people going past the Spit Bridge in cases where more people are waiting for the bus than it can carry and some customers will have to wait for the next service .

    Sea Eagles Supporter asked 2 months ago

    Hi Sea Eagles Supporter,

    Thanks for your query. 

    There will not be a prioritisation process as such, however there will continue to be other frequent bus services to Military Road/ Spit Junction that commuters to these areas can utilise. In any event, the frequency of the B-Line would minimise long waiting times, with services every 5 minutes during the weekday AM and PM peak periods.

    ~ May

  • Hi, I've have just received a sketch of the, "Proposed roundabout on the corner of Neptune and Barrenjoey roads." The drawing I believe is deliberately lacking detail, and therefore misleading. If NSW Transport really want feedback to understand what is important to the community please tell us the truth & supply detailed drawings with proper scale.

    Mike441 asked 2 months ago

    Hi Mike,

    Thank you for your feedback on the Newport extension of the B-Line and our proposal to construct a roundabout on the corner of Neptune and Barrenjoey Roads. 

    I understand your concerns regarding the proposal and as we discussed in person and on the phone we are working on consulting with the community on this concept design. After community feedback is received the B-Line team will be able to do more detailed planning should the proposal go ahead.

    Your feedback will be considered by the project team and used to prepare a concept plan that will be assessed in a Review of Environmental Factors. (REF) This document will go on public display and will be available for consultation early next year.

    The project team will be in touch to let you know when the REF is available to view. In the meantime please stay up to date via our website at http://yoursay.b-line.transport.nsw.gov.au/newport.

    If you would like to speak with the project team to discuss the proposal further then please get in touch again via the website above, email projects@transport.nsw.gov.au, or call us on 1800 048 751.

    Kind regards,

    Kristina


  • Willl the E88 and E89 stop in Narrabeen in the evening on the way from the City to the Beaches ?

    iggy1972 asked 3 months ago

    Hi Iggy1972,

    The E88 and E99 will have a modified stopping pattern and will both be stopping in Narrabeen, outbound in the evening from the Sydney CBD.

    Thanks, 

    Stevi

  • Can you confirm an exact start date for the new services and the revised timetables ?

    iggy1972 asked 3 months ago

    Hi Iggy,

    Thanks for your query. The start date is November 26.

    ~ May

  • Is the Northbound Service of the B-line going to allow passengers to get off at Neutral Bay and Spit Junction or will the service be similar to the L90 ?

    Sea Eagles Supporter asked 2 months ago

    Hi Sea Eagles Supporter,

    Thanks for your query.

    The northbound Service of the B-line will allow passengers to get off at Neutral Bay and Spit Junction.

    ~ May

  • Hi, I have a couple of questions. 1. Will there be improvements to services linking the northern beaches to the North Shore (both Upper and Lower)? I second the comments of others that the 144 should have an express service in peak periods. Spit and Military Roads should also have 24 hour bus lanes, not just transit lanes, as many drivers violate this and use them when they aren't carrying any passengers. They know they can get away with it as there is no enforcement. Route 197 should also have a greater frequency and a more direct variant - are there planned changes to this route? 2. Will there be improvements to the M20/M30? This is basically our only way to get further into the city, given beaches buses all stop at Wynyard. 3. Where it's necessary to cut down trees and other plants to build the infrastructure for B-Line, does TFNSW have a plan to re-plant these? If not, to plant even more and try to retain the natural beauty of the area? Thanks!

    janlin999 asked 3 months ago

    Dear Janlin,

    Yes, there will be improvements including the new E54 which will provide an increased level of service from the Northern Beaches to North Sydney and Milsons Point. You can see all the proposed changes under the new bus service plan on this page:

    http://yoursay.b-line.transport.nsw.gov.au/northern-beaches-bus-service-plan

    The new plan shows changes for bus routes that operate under State Transit Authority (STA). Route 197 is operated under Forest Coach Lines so you would need to check with them. For the M20/M30 citybound service, currently there are no proposed changes under this plan and we will inform the community in advance should there be any changes.

    Regarding the T3 lane, there has been no formal decision made to pursue changes to the existing operation of T3 transit lanes between Manly Vale and Neutral Bay with the introduction of the B-Line bus service at this stage.

    Where it's necessary to cut down trees, all trees will be re-planted in accordance with Transport for NSW’s vegetation offset strategy, and also in consultation with the relevant local council.

    ~ May

  • I refer to the new NB bus network proposed changes to route E71. It is proposed to extend the stopping pattern to include all stops to Spit Junction. This proposed change makes no sense in AM peak and will only increase travel time to the city and congestion on board, and be less attractive to commuters. The E71 is already a slow express service due to the 25min travel time to navigate the suburbs of Fairlight, Balgowlah Heights, Clontarf and Seaforth before joining Manly Rd traffic. Compare this to 10 mins travel time for E70 express to Manly Rd, a service which is proposed to have fewer stops. The E71 bus is most often full or near full at Seaforth. Extending stopping all the way to Spit Junction will add additional travel time and congestion to a service which is already a 55 min scheduled trip, and often more that 1 hour to the city. I urge you to improve the E71 to provide an express shorter duration service, rather than making the journey time longer and less attractive to city commuters. Route 144 Why are there no proposed changes to improve the 144/143 service? Manly to Chatswood is one of Northern Beaches slowest public transport routes and is in urgent need of an express service during peak hours. Both St Leonards Stn and Chatswood Stn are growing employment and transport hubs with increasing commuter demand from the Manly area. Currently it is quicker, more reliable, and more comfortable (but more than twice the cost) to use the Manly fast ferry and train from Circular Quay to Chatswood. I urge you to add an express 144 service during AM and PM peak.

    mdm asked 6 months ago

    Dear mdm,

    Thank you for your feedback. We note your comments on the E71 and 144/143 services and it has been put forward to our service planning team for their consideration.

    ~ May


  • Will the 192 Avalon - Stokes Point - Avalon be going any earlier in the morning to cater for commuter transfer to 199, E88 and L90? The current 8am start is too late and is a school run. How many people does the B-Line double-decker hold i.e. sitting and standing? Will double-deckers be servicing north of Newport considering the problems the Atlantean buses had with tree branches when they were in service decades ago? How many people does the bendy-bus hold? i.e. the one most often used on the current L90 run. Regards MichelleK

    MichelleK asked 3 months ago

    Hi Michelle

    Thanks for your enquiry

    1. Route 192 frequency will be increased to operate at a 30 minute frequency and the span of hours will also be increased to operate between 6am – 8pm weekdays.

    2. B-Line will be able to carry 85 seated and 100 seated/standing passengers. The articulated (bendy) buses can carry 62 seated and 88 seated/standing passengers.

    Regards

    ~ Andrea


  • Hi. Will the T3 between Seaforth and Neutral Bay share the bus lane as it does currently or will it change?

    AJR2093 asked 3 months ago

    Dear Andrew,

    Thanks for your query.

    At this stage there has been no formal decision made to pursue changes to the existing operation of T3 transit lanes between Manly Vale and Neutral Bay with the introduction of the B-Line bus service, which is planned to start operating in late 2017.

    ~ May

  • As a local resident I express my grave concern about the proposed change to include Newport Beach as a terminal for the B-line bus system. The existing bus timetable (virtually quarter hourly service) is quite adequate for residents. Furthermore any decision to incorporate part of the beach carpark in the proposal would be very harmful. This area is of critical importance to our Surf Club affecting many of their activities such as Surf Carnivals, Newport Nippers, Board Riders and, of course, the many visitors. The parking area provides space for regular Netball practice and is also important as an adjunct to the wonderful Bert Payne Reserve, the beautiful children's play area and public BBQ. These facilities are very popular and in constant use. Finally parking facilities in the struggling business centre of Newport are inadequate and the B-line proposal could make things still more difficult.

    Lawrence27 asked 3 months ago

    Hello Lawrence27,

    Thanks very much for your question about the B-Line coming to Newport.

    There are no plans to create a bus depot or bus terminus at Newport. The B-Line project would include new bus stops and a layover location for a number of buses to park, but this will not be a new building.

    Please see our website for links to our latest announcement on Newport and the decision to consult further with the community. The B-Line services will go to Newport in 2018:

    http://yoursay.b-line.transport.nsw.gov.au/newport

    I understand your concerns surrounding the Newport Surf Club and the importance of the car park during the peak summer event season. We have had early consultation with a number of key stakeholders in Newport, including with the Surf Club and understand these concerns.

    While there have been a number of options explored, there is yet to be an official proposal put forward. This will be put to Council and the local community in the coming months, which will give residents and businesses a chance to have their say.

    Thanks for your input and being part of this planning process, this is helping us shape our movements going forward.

    Any other questions please don’t hesitate to get in touch.

    Cheers,

    Kristina


  • I live in newport and have been a resident for over 50 years . the recent change of plan to include newport in the B line and, use the beach car park as its holding bay and terminus is so incredibly ill thought out on so many levels ,I cant believe I have to write this . Here is my question. what knucklehead came up with this idea? kind regards James Gorman

    james gorman rips asked 4 months ago

    Hi James, 

    Thanks for reaching out. 

    The decision to extend the B-Line service to Newport followed feedback from key community stakeholder groups about the B-Line project and proposed changes to the Northern Beaches Bus Service Plan. The concerns raised by community groups north of Mona Vale in late 2016 included proposed changes to the existing Palm Beach service and concerns about changing busses at Mona Vale. Commuter bus usage data at Newport confirmed the benefit of B-Line stop in Newport.

    It is important to note that there is no site confirmed for any B-Line locations in Newport at this time. The project team is currently investigating any potential changes to local infrastructure and bus turn around location options for Newport. We have had some preliminary discussions with community groups in the area to understand their concerns, so that we can find an option that is suitable for Newport. Transport for NSW will continue to consult with Northern Beaches Council, local businesses and residents. Any proposal will be subject to a planning approval process, which would include consultation with the wider community.

    Please get in touch if we can help further. 

    Thanks, 

    Stevi

  • I would like to see details of the extension of the bline to Newport And find out about community consultation

    Rjcurtis asked 4 months ago

    Hi Rjcurtis, 

    Thanks for reaching out. 

    Please note that the Newport precinct of the B-Line project is still in the planning stage and that there is no confirmed site for any B-Line locations in Newport at this time. The project team is currently investigating any potential changes to local infrastructure and bus turn around location options for Newport.

    We have had some preliminary discussions with community groups in the area to understand their concerns so that we can find an option suitable for Newport. Transport for NSW will continue to consult with Northern Beaches Council, local businesses and residents. Any proposal will be subject to a planning approval process, which would include consultation with the wider community.

    Once this information is confirmed and approved in the coming months, there will be an opportunity to receive specific emails regarding the Newport extension. 

    Please get in touch if we can answer anything further, 

    Stevi

  • Why extend the B-Line from Mona Vale at all? I have been a resident in Newport since 1988. Newport is a “Village” with low rise small business and residential alive with Cafés and restaurants with the only through traffic limited to the two lanes each way on Barrenjoey Rd. Newport village is a very busy pedestrian and visitors area with an already full to capacity car park with one of the Northern Beaches busiest and most successful surf clubs. Newport streets are already busy with parked cars from local residents, commuters and visitors. To extend the B-Line to Newport will create Chaos and a severe bottle neck already a problem at the Bilgola Bends. Car parking will over flow in to the suburban streets surrounding Newport with cars being left for the day limiting availability of parking for residents and local traffic. Mona Vale is already set up for the B-Line and is a largely commercial area with a 6 lane (in peak hours) major road at Barrenjoey Rd and already has the infrastructure of large traffic light intersections with the existing terminus located in Darley Rd. There is plenty of scope to cater for commuters to park their cars in Mona Vale. Why not consider a regular shuttle type service to bring commuters from Palm Beach to Bilgola at regular intervals to Mona Vale? This would REDUCE the flow of traffic and bottle neck at the Bilgola Bends in peak hours and efficiently transport commuters to the B-Line facilities at Mona Vale.

    Gladstone1 asked 4 months ago

    Hi Gladstone1,

    Thanks for your feedback and suggestions regarding the Newport extension. Your comments and congestion concerns have been recorded and will be considered as our planning team consults Newport options. 

    The decision to extend the B-Line service to Newport followed feedback from key community stakeholder groups about the B-Line project and proposed changes to the Northern Beaches Bus Service Plan. The concerns raised by community groups north of Mona Vale in late 2016 included proposed changes to the existing Palm Beach service and concerns about changing busses at Mona Vale. Commuter bus usage data at Newport confirmed the benefit of a B-Line stop in Newport.

    It is important to note that there is no site confirmed for any B-Line locations in Newport at this time. The project team is currently investigating any potential changes to local infrastructure and bus turn around location options for Newport. We have had some preliminary discussions with community groups in the area to understand their concerns, so that we can find an option that is suitable for Newport. Transport for NSW will continue to consult with Northern Beaches Council, local businesses and residents. Any proposal will be subject to a planning approval process, which would include consultation with the wider community.

    Services outside of the B-Line corridor are being addressed as part of a wider service plan. Considerations for services that transport to B-Line stops are on the agenda.

    Thanks again for your feedback and suggestions Gladstone1. 

    Please get in touch if we can help further.

    Cheers, 

    Stevi

  • Whilst supporting the concept of the B-Line I am concerned at the lack of planning and community consultation in extending it to Newport. It would be detrimental to the community to lose the integrity and function of Newport Beach to a B-Line terminus. The Newport Surf Life Saving Club has lodged a DA to Northern Beaches Council to enlarge its premises into the car park, which will be in competition with the B-Line proposal. We only have a few beaches and it is paramount to maintain these and not utilised/spoil them for a bus terminus, which could go anywhere. It is also problematic to take buses past where Barrenjoey Rd narrows down to two lanes. There is already significant congestion at this site. My question is... have these issues been thoroughly investigated, thought through and properly planned?

    JaneStevens asked 4 months ago

    Hi JaneStevens, 

    Thanks for taking the time to reach out and share your concerns with the B-Line Project Team. 

    In an effort to understand the thoughts of Newport residents, we've had some preliminary discussions with community groups in the area as well as consulted with local businesses, residents and council.
    We encourage, monitor, record and seriously consider feedback, like your own, which we receive on the website, via email or through our call centre, so that we can determine an option suitable for Newport. 

    It's important to note that there is no site confirmed for any B-Line locations in Newport at this time. 
    The project team is currently investigating any potential changes to local infrastructure and bus turn around options for Newport. 
    Transport for NSW will continue the current consultation process and any proposal will be subject to a planning approval process, which would include consultation with the wider community. 

    I hope I've answered your question and you're confident in the knowledge that Newport is still in the planning phase of the project. 

    Please reach out if we can answer any further questions, 

    Stevi

  • Will the B-Line buses have facilities like information screens for upcoming stops and announcements etc? The sort of facilities found on Sydney Trains. These would be great on the B-Line due to the fact that buses on the beaches have forever been without these sorts of facilities, it deserves it.

    credhead asked 5 months ago

    Hi Credhead

    Indeed, the new B-Line Double Decker buses will be provided by information screens. The driver will have a video screen to monitor as well.

    Thanks for your enquiry

    ~ Andrea

  • can you tell me when community consultation will be for the proposed extension to Newport ? I am aware that the service is due to start in 3 months and with no consultation, no planning applications available , I would like to understand when this will be available? It feels like you do not have time to be able to launch the service by the deadline or will the proposal to extend to Newport be added at a later date .

    Dave asked 4 months ago

    Hi Dave,

    Thanks very much for your enquiry about Newport extension of the B-Line bus service.

    The project team is currently investigating the Newport option. As part of these investigations we need to some preliminary survey work to understand the topography of the area and road alignments. When this process is complete we will be in better position to talk to the wider community about what we are considering.

    TfNSW will continue to consult with Northern Beaches Council, local businesses and residents. Any proposal will be subject to a planning approval process, which would include a broader consultation process. 
     
    Kind regards

    Kristina

  • Hi, why did TfNSW outsource the building of the Double Deckers to OS? why haven't they source an Australian manufacture? the Bustech CDi Double Deckers seat 96 & 20 standing, the have 10 more seats than the MAN's & 5 more standing capacity. why were they not sources locally??

    nicco45 asked 5 months ago

    Hi Nico45

    Transport for NSW released an open market tender process in April 2015 with the objective of providing its contracted operators with an approved list of buses, including double decks that they could purchase to meet their needs. 

    Manufacturing companies had to ensure that their buses met the required specifications as well as complying with Australian Design Rules (ADR) and vehicle registration requirements.

    A number of proposals for double deck buses were received however, at the time of the Request for Quotation (RFQ) for the B-Line project in July 2016, there were only two approved providers under the Transport for NSW Bus Panel, Bustech and MAN, who could submit proposals for the contract.

    Only Bustech and MAN double deck buses met the existing vehicle registration requirements, including the vehicle axle mass limit at the time of the RFQ and as such could operate unrestricted on the B-Line Route. Currently no double deck buses are built in NSW.

    Thanks

    ~ Andrea


  • If no decision has been made in terms of the planned newport bline, why are there surveyors on site at the northern end of Newport Beach?

    Rjcurtis asked 4 months ago

    Hi RJ,

    Thanks very much for your enquiry about the Newport extension of the B-Line bus service.

    The project team is currently investigating the Newport option. As part of these investigations we need to do some preliminary survey work to understand the topography of the area and road alignments. When this process is complete we will be in a better position to talk to the wider community about what we are considering.

    TfNSW will continue to consult with Northern Beaches Council, local businesses and residents. Any proposal will be subject to a planning approval process, which would include a broader consultation process.

    Any other questions please don’t hesitate to get in touch.

    Many thanks,

    Kristina


  • Hi Andrea With regard to"Extending the B-Line to Avalon shops". You say, studies show that there may be "potential" negative impacts on the B-Line mass transit service via the Bilgola Bends. Where can we view this study? Buses have been running the Bilgola Bends for years be it govt or private services without any negative incidents whatsoever so I find it hard to believe your findings. Taking the B-Line to Avalon Shops is a no brainer with regard to the tourism advantages as well as relieving the congestion your design team will cause when you try to implement a bus terminus in Newport. No amount of infrastructure will relieve the bottleneck you will create when the Bilgola Bends joins into Newport. All you will do is create a huge, over signaged concrete Hwy right on top of a beautiful sydney beach with traffic stalled back to Avalon. That's what I call a negative impact. Keep the flow running by taking the B-Line through Newport and turn it around at a roundabout opposite the Avalon fire station. That way you keep the traffic flowing. A trial B-Line to Avalon should be implemented. That's a no brainer.

    rogerjohnston asked 4 months ago

    Hi Roger 

    Concerns about proposed changes to the existing service to Palm Beach and changing buses at Mona Vale were raised by community groups north of Mona Vale in late 2016.  The project team considered extending the B-Line to address these concerns but extending the service beyond Newport could not be achieved to maintain reliability during the afternoon peak period.Commuter bus usage data for Newport confirmed the need for a B-Line stop in Newport. Routes E88 and L90 (off peak) will continue to provide direct services between Avalon and the CBD.

    The project team is currently considering a number of options and more information should be available in the coming months and discussed further with the community. 

    Thanks

    ~ Andrea

  • Dear Andrea Can you please direct me to the actual timetables for the new and amended Northern Beaches bus routes as unable to find anywhere on this site and am sure most people are concerned about actual times and transfer links? Also as Northern Beaches Tafe is reached via Warringah Mall bus stop why has this stop been deleted from E88? Also given the time it takes to reach stops beyond the B-line why does the Newport loop have to continue to be part of one of the longest bus trips on your timetables. Most of us have to walk further distances than the loop to get to bus stops? Is only to service drinkers at The Newport couldn't it run outside peak commuter times?

    Ros Marsh asked 6 months ago

    Dear Ros

    Thanks for your enquiries.

    We have published the new Northern Beaches Bus service plan on our website. Please find link here https://s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/ehq-production-australia/0c9cc0f06a57c902ccba5b3df79f8bdfdba31346/documents/attachments/000/057/243/original/Northern_Beaches_DL_Booklet-WCA.pdf?1496797112

    Even though, timetables for all bus services on the Northern Beaches and Lower North Shore will be available prior to the service changes in late 2017.

    The route E88 is an express commuter peak service connecting customers North of Narrabeen to the main employment centre (City) and only operates during the weekday peak periods in the period direction only. The B-Line will connect customers to other popular destinations along the corridor such as Dee Why and Warringah Mall and operates during peak, off-peak and weekends in both directions.

    With regards Newport, the project team is currently investigating any potential changes local infrastructure and bus turn around location options for Newport. They have had some preliminary discussions with community groups in the area to understand their concerns, so that we can find an option that is suitable for Newport. Transport for NSW will continue to consult with Northern Beaches Council, local businesses and residents. Any proposal will be subject to a planning approval process, which would include consultation with the wider community.

    The decision to extend the B-Line service to Newport followed feedback from key community stakeholder groups about the B-Line project and proposed changes to the Northern Beaches Bus Service Plan. Further information will be provided when final decision has been achieved.

    Regards

    ~ Andrea


  • Why is the bus service terminationg in a suburb with no bus loop or suitable infrastructure? The B-line should terminate in either mona vale or Avalon as they have a bus loop. Terminating the service in Newport is madness!

    Matt_r asked 5 months ago

    Hello Matt,

    Thanks very much for your enquiry about the Newport extension of the B-Line bus service.

    The decision to extend the B-Line service to Newport followed feedback from key community stakeholder groups about the B-Line project and proposed changes to the Northern Beaches Bus Service Plan. The concerns raised by community groups north of Mona Vale in late 2016 included proposed changes to the existing Palm Beach service and concerns about changing buses at Mona Vale. Commuter bus usage data for Newport confirmed the benefit of a B-Line stop in Newport.

    The project team is currently investigating any potential changes local infrastructure and bus turn around location options for Newport. They have had some preliminary discussions with community groups in the area to understand their concerns, so that we can find an option that is suitable for Newport. Transport for NSW will continue to consult with Northern Beaches Council, local businesses and residents. Any proposal will be subject to a planning approval process, which would include consultation with the wider community.

    Your feedback is helping with this process and is much appreciated.

    Any other questions please don’t hesitate to get in touch.

    Many thanks,

    Kristina


  • What are the plans for capacity in Newport to allow buses to turn around back towards the CBD? There are many concerns about the impact buses will have if they are routed through residential streets, especially Seaview Ave. Will buses turn around near the beach?

    credhead asked 5 months ago

    Hello Credhead,

    Thanks very much for your enquiry about the Newport extension of the B-Line bus service.

    The project team is currently investigating any potential changes local infrastructure and bus turn around location options for Newport. There has been no final decision on any locations for the B-Line.

    The project team have had some preliminary discussions with community groups in the area to understand their concerns, so that we can find an option that is suitable for Newport. These consultations have included potential impact to local residents.

    Transport for NSW will continue to consult with Northern Beaches Council, local businesses and residents. Any proposal will be subject to a planning approval process, which would include consultation with the wider community.

    Your feedback is helping with this process and is much appreciated.

    Any other questions please don’t hesitate to get in touch.

    Many thanks,

    Kristina


  • The proposed B-line project which will take over the Newport Beach carpark is MADNESS. What a hideous eye-sore this will be. Although I don't live oppsite the beach I feel for those residents who do. Why not expand the Kitchener Park carpark at Mona Vale? The visual affect will not impact residences there?

    Save Newport Now asked 5 months ago

    Hello Save Newport Now,

    Thanks very much for your enquiry about the Newport extension of the B-Line bus service.

    The project team is currently investigating any potential changes local infrastructure and bus turn around location options for Newport. They have had some preliminary discussions with community groups in the area to understand their concerns, so that we can find an option that is suitable for Newport. Transport for NSW will continue to consult with Northern Beaches Council, local businesses and residents. Any proposal will be subject to a planning approval process, which would include consultation with the wider community.

    The decision to extend the B-Line service to Newport followed feedback from key community stakeholder groups about the B-Line project and proposed changes to the Northern Beaches Bus Service Plan. The concerns raised by community groups north of Mona Vale in late 2016 included proposed changes to the existing Palm Beach service and concerns about changing buses at Mona Vale. Commuter bus usage data for Newport confirmed the benefit of a B-Line stop in Newport.

    Your feedback is helping with this process and is much appreciated.

    Any other questions please don’t hesitate to get in touch.

    Many thanks,

    Kristina


  • The last study I saw stated 55% of Pittwater residents have home based businesses. I know 1 person who goes to the CBD and he drives. Beaches are the most highly prized assets Sydney has and to construct a bus terminal on Newport Beach is an environmental blight that whittles away at our natural capital/advantage. I am not against your bus service but the WHOLE OF SYDNEY enjoys this coastal play ground and brings their visitors to show it off. Now my question! Who in their madness is responsible for conceiving a bus terminal on a costal treasure?

    J Garth Kirkland asked 5 months ago

    Hello Mr Kirkland,

    Thanks very much for your enquiry about the Newport extension of the B-Line bus service. 

    The decision to extend the B-Line service to Newport followed feedback from key community stakeholder groups about the B-Line project and proposed changes to the Northern Beaches Bus Service Plan. The concerns raised by community groups north of Mona Vale in late 2016 included proposed changes to the existing Palm Beach service and concerns about changing buses at Mona Vale. Commuter bus usage data for Newport confirmed the benefit of a B-Line stop in Newport.

    The project team is currently investigating the Newport option and has had some preliminary discussions with community groups in the area to understand their concerns, so that we can find an option that is suitable for Newport. TfNSW will continue to consult with Northern Beaches Council, local businesses and residents. Any proposal will be subject to a planning approval process, which would include consultation with the wider community.

    Your feedback is helping with this process.

    Any other questions please don’t hesitate to get in touch.

    Many thanks,

    Kristina


  • I note that supposed committees on behalf of Newport, Avalon and Palm Beach are meeting with the Bline at the end of July. I urge Bline Management and NSW Govt that the needs of the whole community is considered and not just that of these community groups that purportedly speak on behalf of our community and do not want ANY development to occur. Our suburbs are dying and being devalued thanks to these people who do not have a progressive bone in their bodies. Our children will never be able to get to the city to study and engage in meaningful employment. Our suburbs north of Mona Vale will look the same in 50 years time and be a retirement village and we will wonder why? Please go ahead with any development including our Bline to Newport and beyond if possible. DO not give in to the detractors else we will never progress the most beautiful suburb of Newport. If the buses turn next to the beach is this such a major issue, really? I think it is much better to have a progressive environment than having a backward looking northern end to the Northern Beaches. We have lost so much, the new Hospital, Woolworths, units. Here's to change, and to progress, Newport has not been a village for a very very long time - look at the population! Let's get a train to supplement the Bline to Newport. If you don't like progress, move. Our children and our population in Newport deserve better than for this plan to be de-announced. Here's to the Bline to Newport and to your sticking with your changed plan which I was very excited to hear about.

    nnovakov asked 5 months ago

    Hello Nnovakov,

    Thanks very much for your enquiry about the Newport extension of the B-Line bus service. We appreciate your kind words about the project.

    The decision to extend the B-Line service to Newport followed feedback from key community stakeholder groups about the B-Line project and proposed changes to the Northern Beaches Bus Service Plan. The concerns raised by community groups north of Mona Vale in late 2016 included proposed changes to the existing Palm Beach service and concerns about changing buses at Mona Vale. Commuter bus usage data for Newport confirmed the benefit of a B-Line stop in Newport.

    Regarding any changes to infrastructure and turning around buses, the project team is currently investigating options and has had some preliminary discussions with community groups in the area to understand their concerns, so that we can find an option that is suitable for Newport. Transport for NSW will continue to consult with Northern Beaches Council, local businesses and residents. Any proposal will be subject to a planning approval process, which would include consultation with the wider community.

    Your feedback is helping with this process.

    Any other questions please don’t hesitate to get in touch.

    Many thanks,

    Kristina


  • How are they going to stop non-commuters using the car parks

    The Game asked 6 months ago

    Hi The Game,

    The extra car spaces are intended for people who want to park and ride on the B-Line service. The current Transport for NSW policy will provide free, unlimited parking for commuters on a first-come, first-served basis. It is expected that during commuter travel times that the car park will be predominantly used by commuters, however outside of these times, for example in the evenings and on weekends, it is expected that car parking spaces would be available for use by others. 

    Thanks, 

    Stevi

  • Is the b-line project team aware that The Boulevard, Ross St, Bramley Ave option for terminating/turning at Newport has a problem in that these 3 streets regularly flood during and after heavy rain. In 2017 flooding has occurred at least 3 times. The streets, especially Bramley Ave, are impassable. Bramley Ave and part of the carpark off the avenue is closed during a flood event to allow heavy machinery to come in and clear the area of debris etc. This last occurred approx 4 months ago. The car park off Bramley Ave is used regularly by heavy machinery, most recently approximately a month ago to make adjustments to the mobile phone tower. Heavy equipment is also used in the carpark to access the piped section of Newport Creek which runs under the carpark. Al of the above can be confirmed by Council.

    What asked 5 months ago

    Hello Yvonne,

    Thanks very much for getting in touch with your information and comments.

    I have passed on your letter to our planning and engineering team for their consideration. I appreciate you taking the time to let us know your thoughts as someone with firsthand knowledge of the area. It’s really valuable to us.

    It is important to note that all potential Newport sites for B-Line stops and other facilities are still being worked out. There has been no announcement as we are still in the planning phase.

    All proposals are subject to rigorous review of environmental factors (REF). This will factor in a number of issues, including weather related impacts like flooding.

    Thanks again for getting in touch and if you have any other questions or enquiries please don’t hesitate to get in touch.

    Kind regards,

    Kristina


  • We used to have a direct service to railway square from 5.00 to Midnight 7 days a week. Now there is none. The M30 and M20 do not operate at certain times and when they do, they are scheduled to run within 1 minute of each other. The result is now to either have massive delays or pay twice as trains incur an additional fare for which no one asked for. On weekends its worse and with no free trips after 8 more expensive trips I now drive in. Why is there is still no plan to put back a direct service. Why do we have to pay more or incur massive delays. An example.. for those who need to be there around 7.00am there were plenty of options before... Now by bus the first M30 does not arrive most days until 7.20am.

    The Game asked 6 months ago

    Hi The Game

    Thanks for your enquiry. M30 will have additional early trips to be introduced later this year and currently on the M20 there are services departing from Wynyard to Central operating each weekday between 5:43 am and 12:13 am.

    Regards

    ~ Andrea


  • Will the parking be free or metered parking for residents in the Park and Ride carparks. Will there be buses that go through to central. The L90 used to go through to central.

    Hayden asked 7 months ago

    Hi Hayden,

    Six new commuter car parks are being constructed and converted into free parking zone for B-line services purposes at Mona Vale, Warriewood, Narrabeen, Dee Why, Brookvale and Manly Vale providing about 900 spaces.  The current TfNSW policy is for free, untimed parking. However, measures are being considered to ensure that parking is maximised for bus customers.With regards to bus stops in the CBD, TfNSW is continuing to work with the Sydney Coordination Office to finalise the city stops for Northern Beaches buses. It is currently proposed that buses will stop around near Wynyard Station. Both the M30 and train services will provide an easy transfer to Central.

    Thanks

    ~ Andrea

  • The b-Line bus service turning at Newport Beach will be a Natural Disaster. A huge concrete interchange right on a beautiful beach. What idiot suggested that? If they want sensible planning then the B-Line needs to be extended to Avalon where there is already a bus loop which would alleviate the commuter congestion problem. Everybody gets a fair park space at their own suburban carpark without this mass migration of cars into one carpark. What next a multi storey carpark on Newport beach. Short term planning on the run for political votes. Criminal!!

    rogerjohnston asked 7 months ago

    Hi Roger

    Our studies showed that extending the B-Line past Newport would have potentially had negative impacts on bus reliability across the corridor, due to variability in travel times through the Bilgola Bends. Routes E88 and L90 (off peak) will continue to provide direct services between Avalon and the CBD. TfNSW is considering any proposal at Newport to be subject to a Review of Environmental Factors (including public display) and planning approval. Any decision has been made on this matter as yet. We will be engaging with stakeholders in the near future over possible options.

    Thanks

    ~ Andrea 

  • When does the bus contract come up for tender? We are interested in tendering.

    neil.geddes asked 8 months ago

    Hi Neil

    The NSW Minister for Transport’s office has stated that there are no plans to change the provider of bus services in the Northern Beaches area. The State Transit Authority currently run services in this area and will continue to do so as part of the B-Line program.

    Thanks

    ~ Andrea

  • Hi Neil Any update on the so far mythical plan for the buses beyond Mona Vale - do we need to wait until the mooted cancellation of all E services (E87, 88 and 89) before we get any information on what we are meant to do? We keep being told, and you have also advised that the Northern Beaches Bus Plan was due in March - designed to address the needs of commuters that live beyond Mona Vale - so far nothing. Any update?

    SueT asked 9 months ago

    Hi Sue

    The Northern Beaches New Service Plan has been released. You can find detailed information on our website visiting  http://yoursay.b-line.transport.nsw.gov.au/northern-beaches-bus-service-plan. B-line services will operate from Newport to the City. Palm Beach and Avalon will have new routes and connections with B-line service seven days per week every 10 minutes. 

    Thanks

    ~ Andrea

  • Just wondering when we are going to get an update on what is happening to bus services north of Mona Vale? Not everyone can park and ride at Mona Vale and if everyone tried to who does have access to a car, I'm sure the proposed number of parking spaces would soon fill up.

    Bilgolabususer asked 8 months ago

    Hi Bilgolabususer,

    From Palm Beach and Avalon new route 199 will operate as a full time, all-stops service between Palm Beach and Manly via Avalon, Newport shops, Newport loop, Mona Vale, Narrabeen, Collaroy, Dee Why and Warringah Mall. Route 199 will provide connections to B-line services at Newport. Route L90 will continue to operate during the weekday off-peak (9:00am-3:00pm) and weekends (7:00am- 10:00pm), with a service frequency of 60 minutes. For travel to the City outside of these times, catch route 199 and connect to B-Line services at Newport. From Avalon route E88 will operate to Narrabeen and then stopping only at Neutral Bay and the City.

    Thanks,

    ~ Andrea

  • 1) Based on responses to earlier questions and given the B-Line is planned to be operational later this year, what is the current status on the Northern Beaches Bus Service Plan? Will this be implemented at the same time as the B-Line commencement? If so, when will consultation for this plan occur and how long will the consultation period be? I'm anticipating the changes will be quite significant to accommodate the B-Line which would require sufficient consultation and final amendments of the plan prior to implementation. 2) When are the first of the new fleet of double decker buses expected to arrive for the B-Line service and will they all be delivered in time for commencement of the B-Line? 3) Will the B-Line have pick-up/set-down restrictions similar to those on existing limited stops and express bus services?

    ZackH asked 8 months ago

    Hi ZackH,

    The new Northern Beaches Bus Service Plan has been realeased. You can find it on our website http://yoursay.b-line.transport.nsw.gov.au/northern-beaches-bus-service-plan. It will be implemented when B-line services take place.  Decker buses are expected to arrive late this year 2017 to be operational. The B-Line will stop at at Newport, Mona Vale, Warriewood, Narrabeen, Collaroy, Dee Why, Brookvale, Manly Vale, Spit Junction (Mosman), Neutral Bay and the Sydney CBD.

    Thanks

    ~ Andrea

  • what will happen to residents North of Mona Vale after the B-line is running? Will the L90 etc buses still operate & at what frequency? Will there be all weather shelter at Mona Vale?

    galen i gannon asked 7 months ago

    Hi galen,

    Route L90 still will operate during the weekday off-peak (9:00am-3:00pm) and weekends (7:00am- 10:00pm), with a service frequency of 60 minutes. For travel to the City outside of these times,  you can take route 199 and connect to B-Line services at Newport. B-line services will be available every 10 minutes from Newport and five minutes from Mona Vale in peak periods.  Yes, all B-line bus stops, including Mona Vale, will have an all-weather shelter

    Thanks

    ~ Andrea


  • How will the existing bus lanes be affected? Will these remain as peak hour lanes or become 24 bus lanes?

    KateS asked 7 months ago

    Hi KateS

    Thanks for your question.

    Consistent with NSW and Australian road rules, bicycles, taxis, motorcycles and hire cars are currently allowed to use the T3 transit lane in addition to buses.

    T3 lanes have been established in order to encourage car pooling during peak periods as a means of reducing the number of vehicles on the road, also allowing overall passenger transport capacity to be maintained.

    The RMS guidelines relating to bus lanes can be found here and are included below:

    Bus lane

    Bus lanes are sign-posted or marked as bus lanes. They are provided primarily for buses, but can also be used by:

    • Taxis.

    • Hire cars (but not rental cars).

    • Motorcycles and bicycles.

    • Emergency vehicles.

    • Special purpose vehicles and vehicles also operated by or under the direction of Roads and Maritime Services.

    General traffic is also permitted to travel in a bus lane for up to 100 metres to:

    • Turn left or right into or out of a street.

    • Enter or leave a property adjacent to the bus lane.

    • Pass another vehicle that has stopped to turn right or to avoid an obstruction.

    Questions similar to this were raised through the consultation process associated with the Brookvale to Seaforth B-Line Road Infrastructure - Review of Environmental Factors and responded to in the subsequent Brookvale to Seaforth B-Line Road Infrastructure - Submissions Report - April 2017. You may wish to consult these documents to for further information

    A review of bus lanes across the corridor is currently being undertaken. It is recognised that express buses are only as fast as the bike or all-stop bus travelling in front of it, and changes to lane prioritisation are being considered. Any changes would require formal approval and further consultation.


    ~ Jacqui

  • Is the B line owned privately or is it a government venture?

    Dahelal1 asked 7 months ago

    Hi Dahelal1

    The B-Line Program is a Transport for NSW project. The operator of the service is expected to be announced in the near future.

    ~ Neil

  • Why are mature trees being removed from Mona Vale Village Park for the bus stop there.

    Elaine asked 9 months ago

    Hi Elaine

    The B-Line program at Mona Vale includes a slight realignment of Village Park to create a new bus indent, which will allow traffic and buses not stopping at Mona Vale to continue uninterrupted by stopping buses, particularly B-Line services.

    To create space for this indent, the existing mounds at Village Park will be shifted slightly to the west, with a 50cm retaining wall on the Barrenjoey Road side minimising impact to the amenity within the park. 21 existing trees within and around the existing mounds will also be removed to allow for the new indent.

    Following consultation with local stakeholders and community groups, it was decided that replacement trees will includes Norfolk Island Pine and Swamp Mahogany.

    Replanted trees will be semi-mature and replanted as soon as possible after the mound has been adjusted.

    ~ Neil

  • How can we ensure that the traffic impact of new and proposed developments are properly considered by BLine? I am referring to Eastbank Ave, Collaroy. 7 car movements were recorded by the Traffic Study and this report is now being used to justify putting in at Eastbank Ave/Pittwater Road a No Right-Hand turn during peak hour for southbound traffic There are currently 20 houses. But there are 19 units nearing completion and there are plans afoot to add another 70 units on the Salvation Army land. A significant % of Eastbank Ave residents submitted letters to BLine. How do we request that BLine does not refer to detrimental changes as "Improvements".

    Anita Gibbs asked 9 months ago

    Hi Anita

    Minimising southbound right turns on Pittwater Road will improve traffic flow, safety and overall efficiency. It was determined, using the traffic counts, that the impact of limiting this movement was not considered significant.

    Comments from the public display were recognised in the Consultation Report published last month.

    ~ Neil

  • Hi. The map provided by TFNSW shows the route for B-Line and it also states that B-Line will terminate in the City, however it does not specify where. Will B-Line terminate at Wynyard Interchange or another location?

    SydneyRailPhotographer asked 9 months ago

    Hi

    Thanks for your question. While it was originally planned that the B-Line would terminate at Wynyard and the B-Line outbound stop would be on Carrington St, this is being reviewed in consultation with the Sydney Coordination Office. 

    More information will be provided as we gain more certainty on the city location.

    ~ Neil 


  • Hi, I have a concern about the changing conditions for turning at Ben Boyd Road. If cars are not able to exit Military Road at Ben Boyd Rd they will be forced to exit at Rangers Rd, Wycombe Rd, or Watson St. These intersections are incredibly unsafe for cars leaving Military Rd during peak hour as they are directly at the bus stops. Cars turning at these locations will also slow buses down much more than those turning at Ben Boyd. It is already difficult for cars to leave Military Rd with all the turning restrictions, but it must be remembered that not all cars on Military Rd are going into the city or North Sydney. Some are just going to suburban Neutral Bay, such as parents dropping off children at Neutral Bay Primary School. Where will they be able to exit Military Rd safely?

    Amanda asked 11 months ago

    Hi Amanda

    We are continuing to investigate the proposed changes at Ben Boyd Road, particularly in conjunction with Council's local plans for the area.

    The closure would prevent current delays caused by turning cars waiting for the large volumes of pedestrians to cross.

    The left turn restriction would be particularly critical in the AM peak, where the tidal flow extension will limit outbound traffic to two lanes. Vehicles waiting to turn would further restrict traffic during this period.

    We will continue to provide updates on the program as further reviews are undertaken and the project determination is finalised.

    ~ Neil

  • Why aren't cars banned from being driven into the cbd by workers in peakhour? (Ok if you're driving through or around or have special needs) Why isn't public transport improved as a substitute for traffic congestion? Why do roads have to be widened, trees chopped down and homes threatened?

    col asked 11 months ago

    Hi col

    By improving the reliability, frequency and travel time of bus services, the new B-Line aims to increase the number of bus customers between the Northern Beaches and the Sydney CBD.

    We also recognise that many people will still use cars for a multitude of reasons.

    The proposed road improvement works across the B-Line corridor will ensure the improvements to bus services, while also improving travel times for car users.

    ~ Neil  

  • Is there a plan to increase parking for Collaroy? The current beachside parking is full by 7.30am. How will the increase due to the B line be managed?

    Password701 asked 10 months ago

    HI

    Thanks for your question. 

    There is no current plan to increase commuter parking at Collaroy as part of the B-Line project.

    A project-wide parking strategy, which included forecast demand for the new B-Line bus service, identified that demand for park and ride from the area around Collaroy could be met by existing car parking facilities in the area. 

    Further studies will be conducted once the B-Line is operational to confirm demand figures and parking usage.

    ~ Neil

  • Will there be any changes to the current clearway times on Pittwater Road in Narrabeen and Collaroy?

    LHB asked 10 months ago

    Hi LHB

    Changes to clearway times are being considered as part of the B-Line program as well as within RMS' Easing Sydney's Congestion Program.

    Any proposed changes would be subject to consultation with local businesses and the community, as well as a formal public display and approval process. Further information will be promoted on this website as it becomes available.

    ~ Neil

  • How will moving the bus stops on Military Rd nr Cabramatta Road help congestion, etc. ?

    lilyoph asked 10 months ago

    Hi lilyoph

    The relocated bus stop would help to accommodate the extended tidal flow traffic configuration, which will provide an additional lane of traffic in the peak direction.

    The proposal to relocate the bus stop would allow for an extension of the current road in that area to provide the extra road space.

    ~ Neil

  • Where are the proposed mouths of the tunnel to be located and where are the potential exhaust stack locations please?

    Flintstone asked 10 months ago

    Hi Flintstone

    The B-Line program is an approved Transport for NSW/Roads and Maritime Services project to improve the frequency and reliability of bus services between the Northern Beaches and the Sydney CBD.

    The B-Line program is being rolled out independently of any other proposed transport initiatives.

    ~ Neil 

  • How is the traffic congestion along Burnt Bridge deviation to be improved for buses? My experience of peak hour transport is that there are plenty of buses but they get caught in the same traffic as other vehicles. Providing more rider capacity in the buses (double deckers) does not address this major issue.

    Password701 asked 10 months ago

    Hi 

    Thanks for your question. There is currently a T3 transit lane inbound in the morning for inbound buses and a 24 hour bus lane outbound on Burnt Bridge Creek Deviation.

    The designation of the transit lane is being reviewed as part of the B-Line program.

    Other road improvement infrastructure, including a proposed bus indent near Heaton Avenue at Clontarf, are being considered to minimise disruption to B-Line services from stopping buses.

    ~ Neil


  • Will the new bus bays between Cremorne and Neutral Bay cut down many trees in line with government's land clearance policy

    Whatdoesthismean asked 10 months ago

    Hi

    Thanks for your question.

    Approximately 15 trees are proposed to be removed in Cremorne and Neutral Bay as part of the B-Line proposal. Further detail, including maps of the impacted vegetation, is available on pages 156-157 of the REF

    ~ Neil

  • Will the B Line take a lane on the UNFIXED, antiquated Spit Bridge and cause even more traffic chaos? An idea from left field, widen the bridge and weld it shut.

    Matt69 asked 10 months ago

    Hi Matt69

    The B-Line program includes a series of road improvement works north and south of the Spit Bridge to alleviate recognised pinch-points. This includes the creation of a bus indent around Heaton Avenue at Clontarf to allow passing buses to continue on Manly Road unimpeded by stopping buses.

    A series of road improvement works, changes to existing conditions and an extension of the existing tidal flow on Military Road are all planned works to help relieve the existing pinch points on Spit Road and Military Road.

    Further information about the proposal is available on the Spit Junction (Mosman) page.

    ~ Neil   

  • Why are the most current responses a month behind?

    RTP asked 12 months ago

    Hi RTP

    We are continuing to respond to questions and comments. The delay in responding is due to an increase in feedback relating to public displays at Seaforth and Neutral Bay/Mosman.

    ~ Neil

  • Why doesn't the Government buy the old cinema building at Spit Junction for a bus bay?

    Sue N asked 10 months ago

    Hi Sue N

    Transport for NSW purchased the Spit Junction cinema site to house an indented bus bay as part of the B-Line Project.

    More information about the B-Line proposal is available on the Spit Junction (Mosman) webpage.

    ~ Neil

  • What is happening with public transport north of Mona Vale?

    Janet asked about 1 year ago

    Hi Janet

    TfNSW is currently undertaking investigations around a possible extension of the B-Line service north of Mona Vale. The outcomes of this will inform the new service plan, which will feature any changes to services, particularly north of Mona Vale. Further information is expected about this in March.

    ~ Neil

  • With regards to the closing of Heaton Avenue, what is the expected impact to the residents of Seaforth Bluff that need to transit through the Seaforth Roundabout to get onto Sydney Road and then onto Spit Road? You state that you expect an increase in transit time of 3-15 minutes for the residents that currently use Heaton Avenue. Without Heaton Avenue, they will be forced to go down Ethel Street. They have priority over the Seaforth Bluff residents when entering the roundabout. When this happens today, delays can reach 25 minutes for the Seaforth Bluff residents to enter the roundabout and we have no other way to get through the roundabout.

    JVK asked about 1 year ago

    Hi JVK

    Recognising community feedback and flow-on traffic issues, the proposal to fully close Heaton Avenue is no longer being considered. We are continuing to work through different options internally and with stakeholders and community groups.

    ~ Neil

  • Will the T3 still be in place along Burnt Bridge Creek deviation over the spit bridge and along military road during AM peak hour?

    Natalie asked 11 months ago

    Hi Natalie

    Lane designations are being reviewed, with potential changes at Manly Road and Military Road being considered. Further information will be made available as modelling and consultation activities are completed.

    ~ Neil

  • Hi looks a great project but can you please confirm that buses will be travelling to Chatswood, at the current time with road works on Warringah road the journey can take anything from 20 mins to over an hour there are NO bus lanes and it appears none are being developed. Also can you confirm that buses will be on the Dee Why beach side not just from Pittwater road Thank you

    melaney asked about 1 year ago

    Hi melaney

    More information about services outside of the B-Line corridor will be provided in the new Northern Beaches Bus Services Plan, which is due for release and consultation in March.

    ~ Neil

  • Can you not close Heaton Avenue? That'd be much better traffic wise.

    CaptainObvious asked about 1 year ago

    Hi

    The full closure of Heaton Avenue is no longer being considered.

    ~ Neil

  • What energy source will be powering these routes? Will the transport authority be considering the clear economic and environmental advantages of transitioning to a fully electric public transport fleet?

    Timoj asked about 1 year ago

    Hi Timoj

    The bus fleet selected for the B-Line operates on Diesel fuel. There are no double-decker buses in the current market that operate on electricity or natural gas.

    By improving customer capacity and decreasing the length of buses, the new B-Line service will provide economic and environmental benefits when compared with existing buses.

    ~ Neil

  • Will the existing southbound Transit Lanes along the Burnt Bridge Creek Deviation and then Seaforth to Mosman and the City be retained?

    Peter Hopkins asked about 1 year ago

    Hi Peter

    Changes to lane designations are being considered to improve bus travel time reliability. Further consultation and formal approval processes would take place prior to any changes.

    ~ Neil

  • At present the e79 circles Cromer and Narraweena, before going all stops from Dee Why to Manly Vale. This makes a morning commute to CBD over an hour on the bus. Will there be changes to this service, such as a more frequent shuttle service to Dee Why? In outer suburbs of London they have half size buses regularly shuttling commuters to nearest train station - I always thought this could work in the suburbs of the Northern Beaches not on the main Pittwater Road corridor

    Chrisb5000 asked about 1 year ago

    Hi Chris

    Services outside the B-Line corridor are being addressed as part of a wider service plan. Considerations for services that transport services to B-Line stops are being considered, as well as complementary direct services from major hubs.

    ~ Neil

  • Can council look into fitting an all weather playing field atop each B-Line car park? This would solve two problems in one!

    Ron bennett asked about 1 year ago

    Hi Ron

    The ongoing maintenance of B-Line car parks will be the responsibility of Council. Note that current multi-storey car park designs do not include provisions for recreational use.

    ~ Neil

  • Does this mean that there will be no single bus route from Palm Beach and other suburbs north of Mona Vale into the CBD? Will everyone from those suburbs north of Mona Vale be forced to change buses at Mona Vale? If this is the case, then their journey will take longer. If B-line buses terminate at Mona Vale, what route will the buses take to turn around for the return journey? Will buses which currently terminate in Park Street, adjacent to Pittwater Place (e.g. Forest Coaches from Macquarie Park) still terminate there?

    bus asked about 1 year ago

    Hi bus

    Bus services north of Mona Vale are currently being reviewed in line with investigations into a possible extension of the B-Line service.

    Many existing direct services are expected to continue. Further information will be made available in the coming months when investigations are completed.

    ~ Neil

  • Existing Express services Will the existing express services into and out of the city be impacted with the B-Line service On the original information they were not going to be changed - but I notice a comment on the feed that they will. I catch an E88 from North Avalon and the service has already been reduced from 15 minute interval to a half hour interval. Does this now mean we will have to catch a bus to Moan Vale and then line up for the B- Line, thus increasing trip time - speaking to the people on the bus this will probably cause a lot of Northern Beaches people to go back to their vehicles, as commute times in the car will be quicker I was stated in the Feed on the E89, that info would be available in a few weeks, this was posted a month ago - any update Regard North Avalon Beach Commuter

    barbs asked about 1 year ago

    Hi barbs

    The Northern Beaches Bus Service Plan was previously being finalised based on a B-Line service between the Sydney CBD and Mona Vale. Following feedback from stakeholders and community members north of Mona Vale, the potential extension of the B-Line north of Mona Vale is currently being formally considered.

    The new service plan is reliant on the determination of the final B-Line route, and further information on the investigations will be provided in the near future.

    A new webpage with further information for customers north of Mona Vale is currently being developed.

    ~ Neil 


  • What good does it do to closr Heaton Avenue?

    KALong asked about 1 year ago

    Hi KALong

    The proposal to fully close Heaton Avenue is no longer being considered.

    ~ Neil

  • Firstly thank you Project Team for this project. It has been a long time coming that we desperately needed Park and Ride facilities on a major bus route. I am very excited to see this available at last in Sydney. I am from Melbourne where P&R projects and bus route improvements were funded and built 15 years ago making transportation a breeze in areas without train lines. I have a number of questions in relation to the Park and Ride: Question 1) The proposed number of commuter parking spots will barely fulfill the demand now, let alone address population increases in the future! There are only 250 proposed in Brookvale and 150 in Manly Vale. This is a major capital city, not a rural town! What is preventing the build of a taller car park building to fill the need of today and have scope for the future? Question 2) The commuter car parks are located in heavy residential and retail areas. What measures are in place to prevent non-commuters for taking the scarce commuter parking spots? For example, I have a few girls working for me as babysitters who also work at the mall on a part time basis. They are constantly needing to move their cars every 2 hours around the mall car park to get free parking. They will no doubt (as will other staff in the expanding mall) use the commuter car park if it is available to them so they can work uninterrupted in the mall. Question 3) Are there plans to charge commuters a fee for using the car park? If so, this will increase the cost of travel and decrease the likelihood of taking cars off the roads. Thank you in advance.

    cecilial asked about 1 year ago

    Hi cecilial

    Thanks for your questions.

    The number of car parking spaces at each commuter car park was determined following demand studies, and the car parks you mention at Brookvale and Manly Vale meet parking demand estimates to 2031.

    The B-Line project team is currently considering ways to ensure the commuter car parking spaces are used by bus customers, including the possible use of Opal technology.

    There is no plan to charge bus customers to use the commuter car parks.

    ~ Neil

  • Hi BLine QandA, I'm a fan of more public transport and I understand people all over Sydney are making compromises in order to get some material change happening, however I'd like to voice my concern over the closure of Heaton Av. Clearly where Heaton meets manly road is the easiest place to put a bus stop off the road but I wonder what other options were tabled to have both the road remain open and the expanded bus stop? Will you be making the traffic modelling that has completed made available to the public. Thanks for your attention.

    adjans asked about 1 year ago

    Hi adjans

    Note that the full closure of Heaton Avenue is no longer being considered. Other options being considered can be found in the latest edition of the B-Line newsletter, which was distributed to the community in November.

    ~ Neil

  • What is the long term transport plan for the Northern Beaches? Does one even exist? The B-Line sounds like a huge spend for very little return ($600 million already!). Since there is only one road to the City, the pinch points of Sydney Road, the Spit Bridge, Spit Junction, Cremorne Junction and The Harbour Bridge still exist under this plan. Population is forever increasing and we can't keep building more roads/buses. A rail tunnel is the only solution that scales, so we'll have to build one sooner or later, and no matter how much it costs, sooner will always be the cheaper option. Check Google Maps and draw a line from St James Station to Spit Junction to Manly Vale then Brookvale/Dee Why. This would provide express service to the city and result in less vehicles on the road (a metro train has the capacity of 20 buses, and can run every 5 minutes). Northern Beaches buses could then service these stations and free up the choke points to the city. It is the only way forward for Northern Beaches transport, what is stopping us from doing this?

    scott asked about 1 year ago

    Hi scott

    The Northern Beaches Transport Action Plan describes the planned long-term transport improvements for the region.

    Late last year the Premier mentioned considerations of rail in the area, particularly with the Metro construction already underway. However, this would likely still be 30 years from operating.

    The B-Line program will help to improve the reliability and frequency of bus services across the Northern Beaches, and also provide a series of road improvements that counter existing pinch points, particularly around Spit Junction and Neutral Bay.

    ~ Neil

  • Is the intention to keep the T3 lane? Is it not efficient and effective to have a lane to still be dedicated for multiple passengers in a single vehicle? It is the single car drivers that should use buses. If you have a multiple child family, why do you potentially penalize them as they can't get a bus and shouldn't have to travel in a car lane with single person drivers.

    RocketG asked about 1 year ago

    Hi RocketG

    The current prioritisation of lanes along the B-Line route are being investigated, with a view of maximising travel time savings and journey reliability for bus customers. There are no current plans to change the existing transit lanes around Spit Bridge.

    The road improvements associated with the B-Line project are also expected to reduce congestion at pinchpoints for other motorists.

    ~ Neil

  • Hi, What concrete steps will be taken for Spit Junction. Commuting from Dee Why, this is a major pain point with a lot of waiting time. Buses stop there sometimes for nothing (no passenger get on board). It seems like all buses do stop there, so while it must be nice for the locals, it is not efficient for the other commuters.

    lcant asked about 1 year ago

    Hi lcant

    The B-Line proposal at Spit Junction is currently on public display for public review and comment. Recognising the existing congestion, a series of road improvement works are planned. Further information is available on the Spit Junction page.

    A new flythrough video is also available which details the proposal.

    ~ Neil

  • To whom it may concern, As a long standing Ethel Street, Seaforth resident I am somewhat bemused by the planned closure of Heaton Avenue for the B-line. There is already a traffic congestion issue on Ethel Street - used for cut through from Clontarf/Manly etc. to access Wakehurst Parkway. And with the Bupa Complex and continuous planning requests to further develop the Seaforth island of shops, the closure of Heaton Ave will only lead to further issues. This is clear to see from simply sitting/standing on the street crn of Ethel and/or Heaton of a morning/evening. You do not need any training in road planning to see that the B-line plans are foiled. What is being neglected it the sheer fact that those who drive are not going into the city and therefore will not stop driving with the introduction of the B-line. A simple survey of the community would tell planners this and therefore conclude the stupidity of the suggested closure. Furthermore the B-line offers local residents no further service than what exists today. There are several logical alternatives for a B-line stop in the vicinity that would not have the same negative impact: - moving the B-line down a stop, closure of one end of the horseshoe would not have the same impact as the use of this Street is very limited to one Street of traffic - moving the B-line down to the non populated section near the sailing club, Mosman side - moving the stop to form part of the bypass leading up to the Sydney Rd intersection like they have done for the hills bus service - widening the Heaton Ave exit with a slip road to allow traffic to filter onto Manly Rd without stopping and fear of getting fined for merging if into the T3 lane and then having to move over before as fast as possible to not get fined - improving the access across the Sydney intersection into Seaforth/ Wakehurst I hope that this reaches the right people and that the closure does not occur and a more suitable solution be found.

    KerrieH asked about 1 year ago

    Hi KerrieH

    Thanks for your comments. The full closure of Heaton Avenue is no longer being considered, and the options you mention are among those being reviewed as part of the formal assessment process.

    Further information about the Seaforth proposal will be available in early 2017.

    ~ Neil

  • Why are you closing Heaton Avenue? You seem to state 2 reasons: 1. "The proposed closure would allow an indented bus bay to be built for local bus services, improving bus journey times by separating buses which have stopped to drop off and pick up passengers from other buses travelling along the kerbside bus lane." Please provide evidence of: A) the journey time saving from this change in the AM peak. The journey time will not be reduced as any time saved by passing a stopped bus will be lost further up the road joining the queues ahead. Also, what is the time lost for the bus stopping and rejoining the traffic. B) that a bus bay cannot be provided without closing Heaton Avenue. Please provide evidence that a bus bay cannot be accommodated without closing Heaton Avenue. How will you deal with cyclist safety going down the hill at speed and buses rejoining the traffic lane. I note that bus drivers ask for the removal of bus bays due to the danger and difficulty and time lost trying to rejoin the traffic. (cyclist safety is a massive issue in this location) 2. "It would also prevent traffic from Heaton Avenue impacting on the kerbside bus lane". This a priority junction, therefore the main line (the buses) have priority over the side road. Therefore the a bus is not held up by this intersection. The traffic numbers could be reduced by allowing local traffic only which apparently used to be the case. This could be a revenue earner as well. I imagine the bus lay by is a secondary consideration used as an excuse for essentially isolating a suburb. Please provide the above requested information to validate these claims and why you think it justifies cutting off a whole community from their access to go to work and earn a living! The best part is, the bus doesn't even stop at this location if I am correct? Thanks Jez

    jez asked about 1 year ago

    Hi jez

    Thanks for your comments. Minister for Transport and Infrastructure Andrew Constance announced in December that the full closure of Heaton Avenue is no longer being considered. A review of the other options and feedback received throughout the public display period is currently taking place.

    While the B-Line is not proposed to stop at Heaton Avenue, the stop is serviced by the E71 express service to the city in the morning peak.

    ~ Neil

  • There is considerable interest to have the B-Line service extended to Avalon Beach. The area already has a terminating facility for the L88 and E88 bus services which use Avalon Parade and Old Barrenjoey Road as the circuit to turn the service around and return to Barrenjoey Road. The fact that the B-Line service is not at this stage proposing to use Avalon Beach as the terminus sits at odds with residents at this end of the peninsula who see the prospect of having to take a bus to Mona Vale as is proposed at the present time, as a very awkward way in which to use a new service that is meant to have additional benefits. You can understand that the benefits of the proposed service as exists at the present time are questioned by many current and future users of public transport. The shiny gloss of the new buses is one thing; but the real issue in determining the success of the B-Line service will be one of reality; providing a service that is a total improvement, particularly to passengers from the major centre of and around Avalon Beach. The E88, L88 and E89 services are good. And one bus would, until Wynyard became the terminus, take you to Central. Replacing such services with a three-bus service to go from Avalon Beach or Clareville to Central is not an improvement. If you are able to bring this issue to the attention of the planners and have amendments made it would meet with great glee I am sure. I look forward to the good news of the amendments to the service.

    Allan asked about 1 year ago

    Hi Allan

    The new B-Line service aims to improve the frequency and reliability of services across the area. While the B-Line is currently proposed to run between the Sydney CBD and Mona Vale, investigations are currently taking place regarding extending the service further to the north.

    The Northern Beaches Bus Services Plan will provide further details on services within the region outside of the B-Line. The new plan will be determined once investigations are completed.

    ~ Neil

  • A communication from my local member Rob Stokes has just informed me that extension of BLine to Newport or Avalon is under active consideration, and is the reason for the delay in publishing details of bus services for the area north of Mona Vale promised by March 2016. I see no mention of this possibility on this site and Newport, Avalon and Palm Beach are not included in the "What is happening in your Area" menu. Can you fill me in on this development please? croydon16

    croydon16 asked about 1 year ago

    Hi croydon16

    An extension of the B-Line route past Mona Vale is currently being evaluated. The new Northern Beaches Bus Service Plan, which details services north of Mona Vale as well as other local services in the region and is closely integrated with the new B-Line, is dependent on the outcome of our current review of the extension.

    We will be establishing a dedicated webpage relating to services north of Mona Vale in early 2017.

    ~ Neil

  • Are there any plans to improve the traffic flow for buses (and cars) at the corner of Falcon St and the Warringah Freeway ? This corner is currently controlled by traffic lights and the removal of these lights could allow buses (and possibly cars) to have continual access to the Bridge. The Ernest St on ramp to the Warringah Freeway does not have traffic lights and the traffic flow here is much better than the Military Rd/Falcon St intersection with the Freeway.

    davidy asked about 1 year ago

    Hi davidy,

    There have been no proposed changes beyond Watson St at Neutral Bay planned as part of the Northern Beaches B-Line Project.

    ~ Melanie


  • This is the 4th time I have asked this Question. Any B lines for Newport Avalon or Palm Beach??

    Chantal asked about 1 year ago

    Hi Chantal,

    Apologies for the delay in getting back to you.

    There are no plans at this stage for B-Line stops for Newport, Avalon or Palm Beach.

    Additional services for these areas are being considered as part of the Northern Beaches Bus Service Plan. More information on specific services is expected to made available in early 2017 for public comment. Updates will be provided on the new website as more information becomes available.

    ~Melanie

  • The REF states a journey time saving of 1.5 minutes of having a bus lay by. This assumes that the bus is caught behind another bus, not guaranteed and does a bus stop for a minute and a half. If 50 people take a bus from here in the morning, how many buses are stopped? Also, wont a bus simply catch back up with the buses stopped in traffic in Mosman?

    jez asked about 1 year ago

    Hi jez

    Between  7am-8am on a weekday, 40 of 111 buses going south on Manly Road service the stop near Heaton Avenue (if required). The proposed bus bay would mean the majority of buses - which do not service this stop - would not be caught behind stopping buses.

    Travel time savings across the B-Line corridor are proposed through a series of incremental improvements, which include the proposal at Heaton Avenue and a series of possible changes at Spit Junction and Neutral Bay.

    ~ Neil

  • As a local resident of Clontarf can you please tell me how to formally object? These changes negatively impact residents that are simply trying to get to work in the morning. Having to back track back up to Balgowlah to join the queue of traffic on to the Spit is just a waste of time and creates more congestion in the streets surrounding Sydney Road. Can you keep the Heaton St access open and paint the road for 100 metres to say "merge only". Drivers are pretty respectful and do move quickly in to the other lanes. The Spit is heavily policed and fines do apply for drivers that don't merge. Thanks Laura

    Laura McEvoy asked about 1 year ago

    Hi Laura

    Your objection is noted and would be included as a submission in any formal process should TfNSW proceed with the proposal.

    I will add your details to our contact list to ensure you receive future information about the proposal.

    ~ Neil

  • With the proposed closure of Heaton Avenue are you changing the timetable for local buses and particularly the school buses or are you just going to let them run late? There will be considerable impact on buses that have to go through Seaforth Junction or past Bally Boys on Maritemo St. I expect the closure of Heaton ave to add at least 10 minutes to the morning peak trips for all the buses through Balgowlah Heights... but the extra traffic thru Seaforth junction down Ethel Street will have first go on roundabout. That is before the traffic (and buses) out of Seaforth or up Frenches Forest Road. This will totally block the roundabout so the closure will end up adding considerable time and inconvenience to cars exiting B Heights/Clontarf 24/7, or anything going through Seaforth as well as anyone trying to catch the local buses... Note we can't even access the B lines!! I expect with the closure of Heaton ave my daughter will have to leave before 7:00 to get to school in Nth Sydney on time!

    PaulG asked about 1 year ago

    Hi PaulG

    It is recognised that many buses and cars that currently access Manly Road from Heaton Avenue will be impacted by the proposal. 

    Were the proposal to go ahead, express and all-stop services will continue to service customers at the bus stop near Heaton Avenue. Bus timetable changes are considered as part of the proposal.

    ~ Neil

  • This will be a disaster for car traffic trying to get out of Manly, Balgowlah, Seaforth, Clontarf and Balgowlah Heights in morning rush hour, which is already heavily congested. What is being dome to relieve the congestion caused?

    martinbrown00 asked about 1 year ago

    Hi Martin

    Recognising that cars that normally access Manly Road via Heaton Avenue would now likely connect via Sydney Road, a series of improvements are planned at the Sydney Road/Manly Road intersection to improve traffic flow.

    ~ Neil

  • What are the proposed services going to be like to Crows Nest/North Sydney? I live in Brookvale and work between Crows Nest and North Sydney, and there's no direct route to/from work available. Any direct route from North Sydney in the pm is full before it gets up the hill to Crows Nest.

    benlpride asked about 1 year ago

    Hi benlpride

    Additional services to North Sydney and neighbouring areas are being considered as part of the Northern Beaches Bus Service Plan. More information on specific services is expected to made available in early 2017 for public comment. Updates will be provided on the new website as more information becomes available.

    ~ Neil

  • Hi there, just wondering if and what the proposed changes to the 153 from War Veterans Home to Warringah Mall (Inside) there are. As this service caters mainly to elderly citizens it would be nice to know if the service will continue or if alternative arrangements will be made to cater for their travel to the shopping centre.

    newman asked about 1 year ago

    Hi newman

    Information on any changes to services will be provided as part of the Northern Beaches Bus Service Plan, which is complementary to the implementation of the B-Line. More information about the plan is likely to become available early next year (2017). More information will also be provided in the near future on this website.

    ~ Neil 

  • What bus services will be offered north of Mona Vale when the B Line services begin? The maps of the plans still stop at Mona Vale. I was earlier told that these details would be available before March 2016. We are not even listed in "What is happening in your area". Mona Vale is the closest area listed but more than 10 kilometres away from where I live, 15 kms from Palm Beach. Also, what plans are there for bus services from Mona Vale and suburbs north of it to the new Northern Beaches Hospital.

    croydon16 asked about 1 year ago

    Hi croydon16

    Information relating to the new service plan, particularly north of Mona Vale, has been delayed as ongoing studies are conducted. We expect consultation around the proposed new plan to start in early 2017. Information about services to the new hospital will be included in this.

    Recognising interest and questions from the community north of Mona Vale, we are looking to open a new page about the service plan in the near future to post updates and respond to questions.

    ~ Neil

  • Hi there, I am a Clontarf resident and I am very concerned about your proposal to close Heaton Avenue. I drive from Clontarf to Surry Hills each day because I need to be mobile to pick up my children from childcare facilities within certain hours (i.e. public transport does not work for me). I have tried multiple ways to leave the suburb and the Heaton Ave exit is the only one that moves with the flow of traffic. The round-about at Ethel St is basically at gridlock and it is very difficult to enter already. The other alternative is to enter via Maretimo Street. Entering onto Sydney Road is already very difficult and must occur via the bus lane (which is what I understand is the problem with Heaton Avenue). The traffic is stationary and back to back. The implication of increased traffic flow in this area is very concerning. We will be effectively trapped within the suburb during peak hour. Would it be possible to relocate the bus bay elsewhere?

    Michelle asked about 1 year ago

    Hi Michelle

    Thanks for your comments, we definitely recognise the concerns of residents and are continuing to review feedback and our modelling about the impacts of the closure.

    Relocating the bus bay is one of the options being considered. The option to create the bus bay and close Heaton Avenue was originally preferred because the current impacts are two-fold, with stopping buses in the kerbside lane slowing express services and cars entering from Heaton Avenue also impacting bus travel time.

    I'll add you to our contact database to be informed of updates to the proposal and future consultation events.

    ~ Neil

  • Which roads from Balgowlah/Balgowlah Heights will allow traffic to turn left onto Sydney Road during the morning peak? Maretimo, Coral as well as Wanganella? Currently many of us use Heaton as there is no viable alternative when trying to avoid the inevitable congestion at Seaforth. What is the reason we can't have the bus bay a bit further down towards Avona whilst keeping Heaton open?

    alisonsh asked about 1 year ago

    Hi alisonsh

    Thanks for your questions. The proposed indent and closure of Heaton Avenue will maximise the benefits to bus travel time, which is currently impacted by all-stop services stopping near Heaton Avenue to pick up customers, and also by cars entering Manly Road and merging into the middle lane. Existing access to Sydney Road would be retained, including from Maretimo, Coral and Wanganella.

    ~ Neil

  • I live in an over 55's apartment on Pittwater Road, MONA VALE with only four parking spaces for visitors/tradies......will I still be able to park in the kerb side lane on Pittwater Road, other than the present clear way times or will the lane be restricted to buses only?

    Rhonda Blackall asked about 1 year ago

    Hi Rhonda

    Thanks for your question. Several parking changes are being considered around Mona Vale to improve bus and traffic flow. Depending on where you live, this may include PM bus lanes in the northbound direction, clearways and extensions to existing AM bus lanes. More information will be provided in the coming months as these plans are investigated further.

    For specific information about possible changes at your address, please email your details to projects@transport.nsw.gov.au.

    ~ Neil

  • As a Clontarf resident, I am shocked by your plans to shut Heaton Avenue. I along with hundreds of residents from Clontarf, Balgowlah and Balgowlah Heights use this road daily as an access point onto Manly Road. The alternative under your plan will force them to head north down Maretimo street past a high school which raises safety concerns OR use Ethel street to access Sydney road at the Seaforth junction where the current roundabout is already unable to cope with peak traffic. Why can't you relocate the bus indent to another position and achieve both an improvement in traffic flow in the bus lane as you claim, whilst also retaining an additional access point to Manly road? ,

    ndinop asked about 1 year ago

    Hi ndinop

    The proposed closure would allow an indented bus bay to be built for local bus services, improving bus journey times by separating buses which have stopped to drop off and pick up passengers from other buses travelling along the kerbside bus lane.

    It would also prevent traffic from Heaton Avenue impacting on the kerbside bus lane during the morning peak period, providing significant safety benefits for bus customers and other commuters.

    As part of the proposal, the intersection of Manly Road/Burnt Bridge Creek Deviation and Sydney Road would be upgraded to accommodate traffic diverted by the Heaton Avenue closure. Traffic modelling suggests these improvements would mitigate the impacts of the closure.

    More information about the proposal will be available at community information events planned for later this month, which will be promoted on this website once dates are finalised. These events will provide an opportunity to learn more about the plans and discuss them with members of the B-Line team, as well as submit formal submissions about the proposal.

    ~ Neil

  • What are the plans for E89 service from and to Bilgola Plateau when B-line services start?

    Bilgolabususer asked about 1 year ago

    Hi Bilgolabususer

    Thanks for your question. More information about specific services outside of the B-Line corridor will become available when the new service plan is released in the next few weeks.

    Current indications are the new service plan will propose that route 189 provide regular peak services between Avalon, Bilgola Plateau, Newport and Mona Vale to provide connections to the B-Line, replacing the E89.

    ~ Neil


  • In relation to the proposed Heaton Avenue road closure... While I applaud the State governments B-Line initiative, as a local resident in the Balgowlah Heights / Clontarf area, I am concerned about the proposed road closure. I am not sure that the impact of this proposed closure is fully understood and warrants much deeper community consultation. Traffic flow is extremely high during the morning peak - both on Sydney Road (left turn onto Manly Road) and from Heaton Avenue (left turn onto Manly Road). The proposed closure would force all of the local traffic from Clontarf and Balgowlah Heights onto Sydney Road which I believe is unacceptable. Morning peak congestion on Sydney Road already creates tailbacks to Wanganella Street and further east on Sydney Road. Tensions already run high during peak for residents trying to join Sydney Road from the streets to the south e.g. Maritimo Street at the BP station. Trying to legally merge with Sydney Road traffic is almost impossible which forces many drivers to utilise the bus lane. I am concerned that forcing all south bound traffic from Balgowlah Heights and Clontarf traffic onto Sydney Road will result in severe grid lock and frustration. Local streets to the south of Sydney road are also likely to be impacted with increased traffic attempting to join and merge with Sydney Road. Allowing Heaton Avenue traffic to merge later than the current law permits (I believe the power pole by the bus stop near Avona Cres is as far as drivers can travel before merging on Manly Road from the bus/T3 lane) may help alleviate the Heaton Avenue traffic impact on the bus lane and flow. Please consider the wider impacts before making such a determination.

    Chriss asked about 1 year ago

    Hi Chriss

    Thanks for your comments. The wider impacts are certainly being considered as part of this proposal.

    There’s been a series of questions and comments about the proposed closure of Heaton Avenue since we distributed our newsletter last week. A detailed response relating to the reasons we’re looking at it is available on the Seaforth ‘Get involved’ page.

    The two major drivers of the proposal are to improve existing congestion and safety issues that traffic turning from Heaton Avenue creates. As part of the proposal, the intersection of Manly Road/Burnt Bridge Creek Deviation and Sydney Road would be upgraded to accommodate  traffic diverted by the Heaton Avenue closure. Traffic modelling suggests these improvements would mitigate the impacts of the closure.

    Regarding consultation, please note that this was an initial notification of our proposal. A formal consultation process, where Review of Environmental Factors documentation is publicly displayed and submissions invited, would be required and approval received before any changes are made. Your details will be added to a contact list that will ensure you are advised when details of upcoming engagement activities become available.

    ~ Neil

  • Is there any scope for the b-line service to travel further than Wynyard such as Central Station. At present there are not enough services that stop at Townhall Park St.

    Richard asked over 1 year ago

    Hi Richard

    Current indications are that the B-Line will stop around Wynyard. The final location is being determined in conjunction with the CBD Coordination Office.

    ~ Neil


  • Why closing Heaton avenue at Manly road? Heaton is used by residents from Clontarf, Balgowlah and Balgowlah Heights, which is a good thing because it's reducing the amount of traffic at Seaforth and Sydney road. Seaforth is generally congested with traffic from Seaforth and Forest Way, while Sydney road is congested with traffic from Balgowlah and Manly areas. By closing Heaton you will add to the congestion of Seaforth and Sydney road. It often takes me 10 to 15mins by bus from Sydney-Wanganella roads to Manly road, a 400m stretch! You are going to negatively impact a lot of residents in this area.

    Florence asked about 1 year ago

    Hi Florence

    Thanks for your question.

    The proposed closure of Heaton Avenue at Manly Road will allow for an indented bus bay for local services and improve flow during the morning peak, where buses using the bus lane, as well as general traffic, is often delayed due to vehicles merging away from the bus lane after turning into Manly Road from Heaton Avenue. 

    The indented bus bay will improve flow by allowing traffic to pass buses which have stopped to drop off and pick up passengers.  Traffic modelling shows that this change will provide significant time improvements for buses and small benefits for general traffic. 

    It is anticipated that residents south of Sydney Road will, as you mention, now use the eastern section of Sydney Road to access Manly Road. This additional traffic is expected to be offset by the proposed upgrades at the Sydney Road/Manly Road / Burnt Bridge Creek Deviation intersection.

    ~ Neil

  • Hi! Is there are any current tenders for main construction works advertised for each site? If yes, what's the specific site & the tender closing date?

    Nac asked over 1 year ago

    Hi Nac,

    For all tender and contract enquiries please visit tenders.nsw.gov.au 

    ~ Buffy


  • Will the scope of the B Line project involve changing a large proportion of existing bus lanes to "bus only" lanes? And if so, what measures would be put in place for other permissible users of the bus lanes, such as business people travelling to the airport in taxi's? The proposed B Line route currently has a very small proportion of "Bus Only" lanes as opposed to bus lanes.

    Wheelo asked over 1 year ago

    Hi Wheelo

    Thanks for your question. Current design indicates that some existing T3 lanes across the B-Line corridor will be converted to Bus Lanes. There are no plans for additional 'Bus Only' lanes at this time.

    Bus Lanes can also be used by taxis, hire cars, motorcycles, bicycles and emergency vehicles.

    Details about specific changes will be made available as design continues.

    ~ Neil

  • Are there plans to widen the bus lane along the Spit/Military Rd corridor? One contributing factor to slow travel times is the inability of buses to fit past other large vehicles, particularly between the top of Spit Hill and Spit Junction where the road is quite bendy. Too often traffic is at a standstill, and the bus lane is clear, but buses are forced to creep along with the normal traffic as they are blocked by a truck's mirror. It had already happened twice on my morning commute as I write this!

    tsyme asked over 1 year ago

    Hi tsyme

    The Spit Junction area has been recognised as a congestion 'pinch-point', and a series of modifications are planned in this area to improve traffic flow and bus reliability, particularly at the Spit Junction interchange, which is planned near to be situated near Clifford Street. 

    Recognising current constraints like the ones you mention, the widths of lanes on Spit Road, bus movements and other considerations are also being reviewed.

    More information on specific changes will be provided as design progresses.

    ~ Neil


  • gooday I catch the L90 from Dee why main most days so a couple questions 1) will I still have the option of catching the L90 or will this service be stopped 2) most days I do not get a seat and have to stand on the L90 will the new service provide more seating 3) as the B- line has added an extra stop ( manly vale ) how can it be quicker to get to Wynyard thank you for your time frank turik

    putsy99 asked over 1 year ago

    Hi Frank

    B-Line services are scheduled to run every five minutes in the peak and every 10 minutes at other times, providing a significant increase in frequency and reliability between Mona Vale and the Sydney CBD. Specific details about other services are being finalised as part of the Northern Beaches Bus Services Plan, with more information available in the coming months. 

    The B-Line double-decker buses will provide more seats for passengers (as well as a more frequent services), making it more likely that commuters will be able to find a seat.

    As part of the B-Line program, a series of road improvement works are planned, particularly at recognised 'pinch-points', such as Neutral Bay, which will improve travel times across the corridor.

    ~ Neil

  • What about public transport getting to St Leonards? So many people I commute with from Mona Vale go via Oxford Falls and Eastern Valley way to get to St Leonards for work. There is no public transport that effectively reaches this destination quickly (the current bus from Mona Vale via switching at Neutral Bay takes 30 minutes longer than driving). Thanks

    hannahgoodwin asked over 1 year ago

    Hi Hannah

    Thanks for your question. The B-Line is focusing on improving bus travel on the high-demand corridor between Dee Why and the Sydney CBD. East-west travel and services to other areas is a focus of the Northern Beaches Bus Services Plan, which includes access to areas like Chatswood and St Leonards.

    More information about the new plan will be available in the coming months.

    ~ Neil

  • Hi, Would you be able to clarify what commuter bus services are planned for North Avalon in to the city in the future, when the B-Line service commences? At the moment there is an express service, the E88. Is it planned to maintain this service and/or are we expected to drive to Mona Vale to pickup the B-Line? Many thanks, Charles

    Charles asked over 1 year ago

    Hi Charles

    Thanks for your question.

    A peak express service from North Avalon is expected to continue to operate in conjunction with the B-Line. This will be confirmed as more information about the new Northern Beaches Bus Services Plan becomes available in the coming months.

    ~ Neil

  • Will the BLine service impact the frequency and or route of the L85 and 185?

    austega asked over 1 year ago

    Hi austega

    Northern Beaches services outside of the B-Line are being reviewed as part of the Northern Beaches Bus Services Plan, which is being rolled out in conjunction with the B-Line.

    Express and all-stop services are expected to continue between Warriewood Valley and the CBD, although frequencies may change. We'll continue to update this website as more information about the new services plan becomes available.

    ~ Neil 

  • Will the B-line from Mona Vale go direct to Wynyard and if not why not as this a quick access for us to get to the City, Airport and the Train system in Sydney.

    Romola George asked over 1 year ago

    Hi Romola

    Thanks for your questions. While the city stop for the B-Line is yet to be finalised, at present it is expected that it would be in the Wynyard area.

    ~ Neil

  • Has a decision been made as to where the B-Line busses will stop once they reach the CBD?

    Bryan asked over 1 year ago

    Hi Bryan

    The CBD section of the B-Line route will be finalised in conjunction with the CBD Coordination Office. Current indications are that the B-Line CBD stop would be around Wynyard Station.

    ~ Neil



  • Are there any plans to mess with the current T3 lanes?

    johnough asked over 1 year ago

    Hi johnough

    We are currently reviewing the categorisation of kerbside lanes along the B-Line corridor. Priority movements is one of several measures being investigated to determine a scope of works to improve bus journeys and reduce delays at congestion points.

    More information will be provided about possible changes as the Program progresses.

    ~ Neil

  • Hello, I think the concept of the B-Line service is a great idea. Pre-pay of fares must be mandatory and I would suggest there should be fewer stops and the bus-lane be totally dedicated to buses only. I know I am not alone in suggesting that the service should be extended to Avalon Beach. Avalon Beach is a major centre which is served by the L88, L90 and importantly, the E88 and E89 bus services. With the Express services already well established, seems logical the improved and faster B-Line service also start from Avalon Beach. The feeder services, 191 & 192 are also centred on Avalon Beach. It's a transport hub, and we ask the new service be extended to Avalon Beach. Many thanks

    Allan asked over 1 year ago

    Hi Allan

    Thanks for your comments and support of the B-Line.

    The B-Line will maximise the benefits of a more frequent and reliable service for customers by travelling between Mona Vale and the Sydney CBD.

    For commuters north of Mona Vale, express and all-stops services direct to the city are expected to continue. The frequency and timings of services will be determined in the Northern Beaches Bus Services Plan, which is expected to be rolled out in conjunction with the B-Line from late 2017.

    We are currently reviewing the categorisation of kerbside lanes along the B-Line corridor. Note that there are specific areas along the corridor that are currently categorised as bus only lanes, including along Spit Road.

    ~ Neil

  • I was originally pro-busway on the Northern Beaches, but the more I hear about the current plans, the more I believe it will be all for nothing. Judging by the answers to previous questions, it seems that a number of current services will be removed and replaced by B-Line services (otherwise your answer to Scott would be impossible: "The Northern Beaches bus service plan currently being developed is not expected to result in an increase to the number of buses travelling over the Harbour Bridge in the morning peak one hour"). This is sensible, as forcing more buses down the already congested Spit/Military Rd corridor would not solve anything. However, it is clear to anyone who travels along it that there is very little scope for improvement along the corridor, short of a tidal flow system for much of its length (similar to Victoria Road). Therefore with a minimal improvement to travel times, and a similar number of services to now, it seems that the whole B-Line plan is simply a glorified version of what we currently have, but with fancy bus stops and car-parks in poorly chosen locations (the REF for the Manly Vale car-park actually shows that the works will do nothing to improve the local traffic and in most cases make it worse). Furthermore, not considering the impact on the already crazy situation at Wynyard is a recipe for failure, and Wynyard being "out of scope" is a ridiculous excuse as the whole B-Line system is likely to begin and end there! Also, buses from Pittwater are already full by the time they reach Manly Vale, so it is vital that an earlier point of origin exists (such as Dee Why), otherwise downstream passengers will be stranded. This whole situation seems to be a farce: a poorly suited plan pushed through by politicians wanting to be seen as 'doing something' but not really fixing the problem.

    tsyme asked over 1 year ago

    Hi tsyme

    Thanks for your comments, which have been noted. 

    ~ Alison

  • Thanks for your response but you didn't really answer my questions you only say the standard "A new bus service plan etc etc " so we won't know anything until it happens , will there be any opportunity other than this forum for public discussion if so when? I asked if there would be a measure in place to guarantee the performance of the B line service & if the State government would monitor/recommend fares these questions were not addressed

    Commuter asked over 1 year ago

    Hi Commuter

    Information about the new bus service plan will be provided to the community as soon as it is available, well before the introduction of a new timetable in late 2017. 

    The level of detail you are seeking about the operation of the B-Line bus service is not currently available. 

    ~ Alison

  • Hello, I would fully support a new carpark in Narrabeen for commuter's, but in a different situation to what Government/Council is proposing. I cannot understand why the existing carpark located close to Narrabeen Lagoon is being extended. This is a very narrowminded way of thinking. As our communities are expanding and growing (the idea behind a progessive bus service and more commuter carpspaces) why would Government/Council consider enlarging a carpark when what is required and looking forward into the future is a unique leisure space for all local residents and the greater population of Sydney to enjoy. I would think, it would be more productive to place a carpark in amongst the industrial area of Narrabeen and increase/extend the Narrabeen Lagoon leisure area. Narrabeen is unique in its environment in Sydney, in that it is the only area in Sydney that has access to a large surfing beach and a recreational lagoon. This unique point of difference should be something to expand and utilise instead of decreasing. D

    Skybax asked over 1 year ago

    Hi Skybax

    Thanks for your comments, which have been noted. 

    ~ Alison

  • What does "Install bicycle racks" mean exactly? Are these to be a secure lock-up facility like the Cycle Central in the Whistler Street car park in Manly or a handful of steel racks where thieves can help themselves? Will they be under cover or exposed to the elements?

    Accent asked over 1 year ago

    Hi Accent

    Detailed design of facilities is not yet complete, however a mix of enclosed and open bicycle parking facilities is being considered depending on the nature of the environment where they will be located. 

    ~ Alison

  • Who will operate the B-Line ? If it is a private enterprise will fares still be monitored/recommend by the State Government? Will there be a measure in place to guarantee service performance? Will the B-line double deckers be more expensive to maintain in comparison to a single deck bus?Will the current services eg L90 still be available to commuters?Why do we have to have people driving their car to a designated stop this will only add to the already congested roads on the Northern Beaches as the car parks will fill very quickly & that will only leave the surrounding streets choked with commuters from other areas as they try to find a park particularly as we are building more & more units in the areas.

    Commuter asked over 1 year ago

    Hi Commuter

    The B-Line will be operated by an accredited bus operator, which operator this is will be determined closer to the scheduled operation of the new service in late 2017. The cost of operating and maintaining double decker buses has been considered as part of the program development.

    A new bus service plan for the whole Northern Beaches region is being developed, which will include the new B-Line service, as well as other services to the Sydney CBD, other areas of the northern beaches and adjoining regions, and connection with B-Line stops. The new service plan will be communicated to the community prior to the operation of the new B-Line service. 

    One of the aims of the new service plan is to ensure effective connectivity to the B-Line service, and active transport (cycling and pedestrian) to B-Line stops is also being enhanced as part of the program. Along with providing additional commuter car parking, these measures aim to increase the attractiveness of public transport for travel to and from the Northern Beaches. 

    ~ Alison

  • 1: When will the Narrabeen bridge on Pittwater road be widened to incorporate north and south bound bus lanes? 2: Who will operate the B Line?

    Barry asked over 1 year ago

    Hi Barry

    Widening of Narrabeen Bridge is not part of the scope of works for the Northern Beaches B-Line Program.

    The B-Line service will be operated by an accredited bus operator, which operator this is will be determined closer to the commencement of services in late 2017. 

    ~ Alison

  • Takes a good 40 mins from Dee why to spit junction. The transit bus lane clogs up to spit junction as the bus stops aren't cut in (esp spit) and the m30 sits waiting on military rd George it starts. Can the bus stops be cut into the path so other buses that don't stop til Cremone etc get past?

    neanbean13 asked over 1 year ago

    Hi neanbean13

    The B-Line program includes a program of infrastructure and road work to alleviate congestion on this corridor. This will include indented bus bays where practicable and feasible. 

    ~ Alison

  • Why doesn't the B-line stop at North Sydney ? It's a major transport hub and could connect with eg Chatswood, Macquarie Uni, Barangaroo (via the new Metro)

    DD asked over 1 year ago

    Hi DD

    Thanks for your question.

    The B-Line program aims to improve travel time reliability between Mona Vale and the Sydney CBD, and in line with this scope a stop at North Sydney was not included.

    A bus service plan for the whole Northern Beaches region is currently being developed, and will include updated services within the Northern Beaches to areas including the CBD, North Sydney and Chatswood.

    Once released, the plan will then be outlined in communication materials distributed to the community to ensure customers have a full understanding of the proposed changes. 

    ~ Neil


  • In regards to the proposed fleet of double decker buses, will Transport for NSW extensively examine vehicle types and design options (including examples currently used interstate and overseas) for the new vehicles to ensure that the new bus fleet is appropriate to meet the needs and passenger demand of the B-Line service? Will factors such as longer dwell times which contribute towards bus congestion at bus stops be considered when the new double decker fleet is procured? While I support that double deckers are most appropriate to this corridor, they need to be able to handle the high demand and turnover of passengers expected at B-line stops along the corridor as well as cater for increased seating, otherwise they will just cause even more service delays by holding up other buses and traffic. Double decker buses with dual staircases and three doors should be examined as a potential option. They have the ability to carry more seated passengers than articulated buses, but also have the ability to have competitive dwell times compared with articulated buses when the additional door and staircase are provided. Not only that, it reduces passenger conflict inside the bus and avoids problems that plague other cities where boarding passengers have to wait for alighting passengers coming down the stairs before being able to access the upper deck, thus delaying boarding and increasing dwell time.

    ZackH asked almost 2 years ago

    Hi Zach H

    The program team is continuing to investigate options regarding the type of buses that would be used for B-Line services.

    Minimising dwell times are an important aspect of improving travel time reliability, and the factors involved, including those you mention, will be considered in more depth as the program progresses.

    ~ Neil

  • I have two: How can it be OK for passengers to stand up on a bus or when seated not to wear a seatbelt? Will bicycles still be allowed in the bus lane where they impede bus progress?

    Michael asked almost 2 years ago

    Hi Michael

    Thanks for your questions. Recognising that buses do not have seat belts, the speeds that they are allowed to travel is restricted.

    Bicycles and motorcycles will continue to be able to use ‘Bus lanes’ along the B-Line route. ‘Bus only’ lanes will only be able to be used by buses.

    ~ Neil

  • I have noted that all the upgrades for bus stops are outside the CBD. However, there is already an urgent need to dramatically improve the bus stop facilities at Wynyard for the departing Northern Beaches buses. It needs weather protection, passenger waiting line management and above all more space. Even now, a small traffic hold-up for whatever reason, will see a couple of hundred passengers waiting at Wynyard under 3rd world conditions. This is happening NOW, the B-Line will see this multiplied by 4. Please attend to this problem urgently.

    Molap asked almost 2 years ago

    Hi Molap

    At this stage, works in the CBD are outside of the scope of the Northern Beaches B-Line Program. However the project team is working with other groups within Transport for NSW to understand what the requirements will be for pick up and drop off in the Sydney CBD for the new B-Line service in late 2017 and whether any scope items will need to be included as part of this program, or other Transport for NSW programs in the Sydney CBD. 

    ~ Alison

  • What provisions will be made for parking at Warriewood during construction of the multistory car park? Keeping in mind that the Friday Markets at Rat park put an extra load on available parking at that location.

    Molap asked almost 2 years ago

    Hi Molap

    Subject to planning approval, a construction contractor is expected to be engaged later in 2016. Options for staging the construction to provide for parking during construction would then be developed. Further information about this would be provided to the community once determined. 

    ~ Alison

  • Part of the congestion problems, in particular at weekends, are people parking in the bus lanes during so called "off-peak" times. If you have ever travelled along the A8 of a weekend it's certainly not "off-peak" traffic, this is a major route that is used 7 days a week. Of a weekend and "off-peak" it's looks more like the wacky racers with buses having to constantly pull out and travel in lane two to avoid being blocked behind the cars parked in the bus lane. This has a negative impact on all traffic because buses take up more space at the lights and junctions, as the drivers prefer to stay in lane two rather than joining the bus lane as know they will have to pull out again another 50 meters down the road to avoid more cars parked in the bus lane. I'm lucky to have travelled to and lived in numerous major cities across the globe and Sydney is the first city that I've been to that allows cars to be parked in the bus lane on a major route into the city. If the B-Line is to work you need to ensure that the bus lane is a 24 hour no parking zone. This ensures that all buses using the lane are not going to be held up by parked cars and will reduce the congestion in other lanes as they will not need to move into lane two taking up space that would be occupied by other road users. Will you be making the bus lanes 24 hour no parking and exclusive to buses and taxis?

    ComfortInSound asked almost 2 years ago

    Hi ComfortinSound

    The need to change on-street parking restrictions, including bus lanes, to improve bus journey times and reliability is currently being investigated. An assessment of the benefits to bus journey times versus the impacts on residents and businesses of loss of parking is an important consideration in determining what changes would be made to parking availability, if any. If there is a need to make changes to parking availability on the corridor, a proposal will be developed and presented for community consultation and discussion.

    ~ Alison

  • Another problem currently on the route is the sheer number of traffic lights, junctions and pedestrian crossings. Have you considered building more over road pedestrian crossing bridges? This will allow pedestrians to cross at major intersections without the need to stop traffic as often.

    ComfortInSound asked almost 2 years ago

    Hi ComfortinSound

    The Northern Beaches B-Line Program includes a program of infrastructure improvements to help alleviate the causes of congestion and delays to improve bus journey reliability along this corridor. The program of works is still being developed, and pedestrian overbridges may be considered where practicable and feasible. Further information regarding the scope of works for infrastructure improvements will be provided to the community as it becomes available. 

    ~ Alison

  • I have been commuting to the city from Newport since 1993. I have seen and experienced many of the changes to this service over the years, some good and others not so. When I first began using the E service the first set down for the return journey during peak hour was Mona Vale. The commute (door to door) was usually about 50 minutes , with the extra stops which have been added over the years travel time is now around 60 - 70 minutes. My concerns with the new service are - travel times with the extra stops - congestion around the Spit and a convenient continuing service north of Mona Vale. My questions to you at the moment are - Will the E buses still operate to the city? Why do the B buses operating north of Warriewood have to stop at Brookvale, Manly vale, Spit and Neutral bay? (Quite often ie. most days the current E services are full from Collaroy). Will B buses start from any of the above mentioned stops and if not why not? Have you considered two start points for the service, eg. B line from Mona Vale pick up until Collaroy then no stops until the CBD and B line from Dee Why pick up until Neutral Bay then CBD. Thank you for your time and I'll look forward to your reply.

    micheleC asked almost 2 years ago

    Hi Michele

    Thanks for your question, which raises good points. To support the introduction of the new B-Line service, a new bus service plan is being developed for the whole northern beaches region which aims to ensure the network operates effectively for customers across the region. When the service plan is completed, we will be able to provide further information to the community that will address your questions about stopping patterns and other services. 

    The Northern Beaches B-Line Program includes a program of infrastructure improvements to alleviate the causes of congestion and delays to improve bus journey reliability along this corridor. 

    ~ Alison

  • Can you please tell me how buses will alleviate the absolute mess on Warringah Road in the mornings from Dee Why to Chatswood the journey takes an hour each morning leaving at 6.45am ?

    melaney asked almost 2 years ago

    Hi Melaney

    To support the introduction of the new B-Line service in late 2017, a new bus service plan for the whole northern beaches region is being developed, which aims to which aims to ensure the regional network operates effectively for customers across the region, including services from Dee Why to Chatswood. Customers will be provided with information about the new service plan when it is completed. 

    ~ Alison

  • Hi, I currently travel to Town Hall on the E88 from Avalon every day. I now have to change at Wynyard, will I now have to change at Mona Vale as well?

    Avalon Peter asked almost 2 years ago

    Hi Avalon Peter

    To support the introduction of the new B-Line service in late 2017, a new bus service plan for the whole northern beaches region is currently being developed. This will include services from north of Mona Vale providing connectivity to the CBD and other areas of the northern beaches. When it is completed, the new service plan will be communicated to the community so you will be aware of what changes are proposed to the bus network. 

    ~ Alison

  • I would like to know if there will be buses that travel along Griffin Road in Dee Why to CBD and Chatswood currently only Monday to Friday and only peak - what about the rest of the day and weekends.

    melaney asked almost 2 years ago

    Hi Melaney

    To support the introduction of the new B-Line service in late 2017, a new bus service plan for the whole northern beaches region is currently being developed. Once completed, the community will be provided with further information about the service plan, which will include the area you have described. 

    ~Alison

  • A major congestion issue on the routr is that fact that currently at all bus stops the bus has to stop in the bus lane which causes any bus behind to not be able to pass. When this occurs busses behind have to pull into lane two to avoid being delayed which then causes further congestion problems for all other traffic. This will be a major issue with local busses and B-Line busses fighting for space and overtaking along the route. This is a major problem I've experienced in Sydney that I have not seen in other major cities across the globe on major routes into the city. At every stop busses should have a dedictaed vus turnout so they can pull into the stop and it does not cause the bus to block the bus lane . This will allow other busses behind, that do not stop at that stop to freeely pass. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_turnout Will the upgrade to the route include dedicated us turnouts at bus stops to avoid the lane being blocked and holding up all other traffic behind them.

    ComfortInSound asked almost 2 years ago

    Hi ComfortInSound

    We’ve been investigating several measures to minimise the congestion that you mention, including the installation of indented bus bays at locations where delays occur.

    Other measures being considered include changes to lane configurations and access, tidal flow arrangements and changes to turning bays.

    More information about measures in specific areas will be made available in the coming months.

    ~ Neil


  • How will I travel from Avalon Beach to the city ? Peter

    Peter asked almost 2 years ago

    Hi Peter

    There will continue to be bus services from areas north of Mona Vale to provide connectivity with the B-Line, the Sydney CBD and other areas on the Northern Beaches once the B-Line starts operating in late 2017.

    More details about these services will be provided in coming months with the release of the new bus service plan for the Northern Beaches, which aims to ensure the regional network operates effectively for customers across the region.

    ~ Neil

  • There are several responses in here that mention Spit Junction through to Neutral Bay being a congestion point. Does anyone working on this project commute on this corridor? In the morning, Spit Junction to Neutral Bay is actually the best flowing part of the journey past the Spit. The actual corner at Spit Junction is the choke point. In the afternoon it is Neutral Bay TO Spit Junction that is the worst, again the choke point being Spit Junction itself. Is there a specific plan to remediate the chokepoint? Most other efforts will be wasted otherwise...

    SeaforthDave asked almost 2 years ago

    Hi SeaforthDave

    We recognise Spit Junction is a significant source of the congestion we mentioned between Spit Junction and Neutral Bay. Several measures are being considered to improve reliability and travel times in this area, including new indented bus bays. The implementation of tidal flows, which would increase the number of available lanes during peak times and maximise traffic flow, is one road treatment option being investigated. Lane widening, traffic light phasing and priority movements are other possible measures. 

    ~ Neil

  • Will the new B-Line lanes be accessible to Motorcycles? Also will there be physical (i.e. a kerb) segregation between the B-Line lane and the standard carriageway?

    jimb asked almost 2 years ago

    Hi jimb

    Bicycles and motorcycles will continue to be able to use ‘Bus lanes’ along the B-Line route. ‘Bus only’ lanes can only be used by buses. Bus lanes and Bus only lanes will be marked to distinguish them from other lanes, and not physically separated.

    ~ Neil

  • The toy shop site is known by the community to be very congested and is located far from the commercial centre of Manly Vale and the existing Manly Vale bus stop. The options we were told were being considered included the Gilmour's shoe shop site - what progress has been made to explore this option? Another option which has been raised is the Manly Vale Community centre - could the community benefit from a new community centre and hall with parking located above (it is surrounded on 3 sides by road and backs onto the community garden)?

    kizza asked almost 2 years ago

    Hi kizza

    The Gilmour’s Shoes site was one of three options formally assessed against criteria including operational efficiency, accessibility, constructability, environmental impact, community and stakeholder benefit, and visual impact.

    This option was not preferred due to impact on adjacent residential properties, and traffic impacts on Innes Road and community facilities adjacent to the site.

    Following questions and comments from the community and local business owners, we have committed to formally review the Manly Vale Community Centre site against our criteria. More information will be provided once the review is complete.

    ~ Neil


  • Re: Manly Vale BRT. Already on this forum, and previously provided at community forums, there have been several negative, well founded reasons for why the carpark and main bus stop SHOULD NOT BE at the proposed location (Cnr Kenneth Rd - Caseys Toy site). Summarised reasons are: a. This intersection is already exceptionally busy and congested with traffic from Roseberry St flowing into Kenneth Rd and from traffic from bulky good retailers in the area. Traffic analysis will show these congestion problems b. This location is on the outer edge of Manly Vale making it less accessible to the majority of Manly Vale by foot. This will increase car use by Manly Vale residents to access the commuter park, placing an additional and unnecessary strain on the capacity of the carpark c. Too far from the local Manly Vale shops that provide essential services, making it less convenient for commuters as it limits ready access to these services To date, none of these reasons appear to be of sufficient merit to change the plans. My question - Is there any reasoning or issue that would prompt a change in thinking? It appears that the community is asked for opinions but then ignored

    LRose asked almost 2 years ago

    Hi LRose

    We’ve received a lot of feedback from local residents about the preferred Manly Vale commuter car park option at Condamine Street and Kenneth Road, both for and against the proposed location.
     
    Feedback received is one of several criteria that will help determine the preferred B-Line stop and multi-deck car park option that is taken forward.

    Following questions and comments from community members at our information session and other consultation activities, we have committed to again review the car park options, and will provide further information about the options in coming weeks once that review has been completed.  

    ~ Neil

  • Will cyclists still be able to use Bus Lanes in redesigned sections? It would be great if any new road designs could include cycle provision as a way of promoting cycling as another alternative to help reduce congestion, in keeping with the overall aims of b-line project. Asking cyclists to share main carriageway lanes with cars could lead to increased conflict and risk to cyclists.

    Jonno asked almost 2 years ago

    Hi Jonno

    Cyclists will continue to be able to use designated bus lanes once the B-Line is operational. Cyclists will not be able to use ‘bus only’ lanes. More information about traffic designations is available on page 7 of the Sydney Clearways Strategy.

    We are currently reviewing the categorisation of kerbside lanes along the B-Line corridor. Note that there are specific areas along the corridor that are currently categorised as bus only lanes, including along Spit Road.

    Recognising the high amount of active transport use in the area, local active transport links will also be upgraded as part of the B-Line program, and bicycle facilities will be provided at each B-Line stop.

    ~ Neil

  • Please can you inform me as to how the new 'B-line' is going to improve the commute to the City as there are so many issues it seems to be causing instead of resolving. In particular, a worse commute will be created if you take away all of the local bus routes from the Northern Beaches area which travel directly into Wynyard and introduce 'B-line stops'. This will mean everyone is going to have to get off again at the 'B-line' bus stop and queue for another bus, taking longer, causing more congestion and frustration at the stops and with no seats available. Even with double deckers there will be no space to get on a bus by the time they gets to Dee Why or Warringah Mall, as the buses will already be full if they only originate from Mona-Vale. Hence why 10years ago I abandoned queuing for an L90 or L88 (which I could not even get on let alone have a seat) and started catching the E76 and E77 from Dee Why to ensure I had a seat for the 1hour 15mins journey and also so that the bus departure time was more reliable, as it was not coming from the north down the very congested Pittwater Road. I can only see the idea of creating major B-line bus stop hubs creating more congestion in specific locations, worse local traffic with more people driving to the B-line bus stops and not getting the parking promised - as catching a 'local' bus will be more time consuming and frustrating. As a result I envisage therefore a much worse service to the City than at present, which will take longer, requires a change of bus and have the B-line buses not turning up regularly every 5 mins due to road congestion coming from the north, and which doesn't provide a seat except from Mona-Vale. Empty buses every 5 minutes will need to originate from each 'B-line' bus stop in order to provide the 'efficient' and 'regular' service with 'extra seating' to the City the new B-line is claiming to create. The other major problem with the bus routes into the City is the congestion through Cremorne along Spit Road - how is this going to be addressed? I cannot see how providing extra B-line buses every 5 minutes is going to create a better commute into the City if we are all going to be sitting in a bus-jam. The lane categories in this section need to be changed to left: bus only, middle: T3 and right: all vehicles - this may then actually discourage people travelling by car and improve the bus lane flow, allowing 'express' buses from the North to have a better opportunity to overtake those 'local' buses causing congestion by stopping at all the individual stops after Spit Bridge. It is also interesting that the new B-line is stating in peak times there will a bus service every 5 minutes, as if you stand at Warringah Mall stop in commuter times there is at least 1 bus every 5 mins travelling past to the City - so how is the B-line improving the service if we have this already? I believe that the people working on this B-line project should commute to the City every day for at least a week so that they can witness the issues day to day and fully understand what the commuters requirements are to actually get to work on time. The B-line proposals should be reconsidered while there is the opportunity to amend them accordingly, because at present I cannot see how the current proposal is going to improve the commute to the City but instead cause more dissatisfaction to Northern Beaches residents - at a vast expense.

    knavin asked about 1 year ago

    Hi knavin

    Thanks for your questions and comments. The bus network will be improved with the implementation of the B-Line through the provision of a regular, turn-up-and-go service and a series of road improvement works that will improve journey time reliability. Recognising Spit Junction and Neutral Bay as pinch points, treatments such as minor lane widening, traffic light phasing, tidal flows, and bus bays are being investigated.

    The increased frequency of services is expected to ensure the on-board congestion you mention is improved. AM peak services starting from Dee Why are also being investigated. Local all-stop services throughout the region will continue to operate, with specific services being reviewed as part of the new Northern Beaches Bus Service Plan, which is currently being finalised for initial review and public comment.

    ~ Neil

  • Where will the B-Line terminate in the CBD. Transferring to other modes of transport always takes 10 - 15 mins, it would be great if the bus went as far south as Central to avoid adding time to an already long journey.

    rlindup asked almost 2 years ago

    Hi rlindup

    A bus service plan for the whole Northern Beaches region is currently being developed, which will include bus services from areas north of Mona Vale that provide connectivity to the Sydney CBD and other areas within the Northern Beaches. The bus service plan will include details about where buses set down and depart within the Sydney CBD.

    The new bus service plan aims to ensure the regional network operates effectively for customers across the region, and is due to be completed in the first quarter of 2016. The plan will then be outlined in communication materials distributed to the community to ensure customers have a full understanding of proposed services. 

    ~ Neil

  • The NSW government has announced that a future new tunnel is planned from the Warringah Freeway, by-passing Military Road, Spit Road, passing under Middle Harbour to avoid Spit Bridge, emerging on the northern side of the Sydney Road intersection at Seaforth. The tunnel will reduce peak travel times on this sector by about 18 minutes. 1. What height are the B-Line double decker buses? 2. Will they be able to fit in a standard height road tunnel - my observation is that there's not much clearance above a single deck bus? If not, the bore of the proposed tunnel will have to be enlarged to cater for double-deckers, but that would significantly increase the capital cost and could make the tunnel financially unviable. 3. Will the B-Line double deckers instead avoid the tunnel and continue to use the existing route? 4. Will the B-Line revert back to single deck buses to take advantage of the 18 minute journey time reduction without compromising the viability of the tunnel? I propose that all the B-Line physical modifications proposed are progressed as Phase 1 of the B-Line project, but initially using the existing bus fleet. I propose a study team is established with Infrastructure NSW to establish a combined cost/benefit analysis of using double deck buses compared with single deck buses, and the impact of each on the cost of the new tunnel. Your 'Quick Poll' questions do not pose the question - 'Would you prefer to reduce your journey time by 18 minutes' - but I'm sure 90% of commuters would rank that as number 1. So please don't push for double deckers if that detrimentally affects the financial case for the tunnel!!

    tbuckler asked almost 2 years ago

    Hi tbuckler

    Current designs indicate that B-Line buses would be 4.3 metres high, within the current NSW minimum tunnel clearance of 4.4 metres. B-Line buses would therefore be able to use any tunnels constructed within the current standard.

    A range of different options are currently being investigated to determine a scope of works to improve bus journeys and reduce delays at congestion points, particularly Dee Why, Brookvale and Spit Junction through to Neutral Bay.

    ~ Neil

  • My question relates to the proposed car park at Manly Vale at either Casey's toys or KFC. Since the opening of large stores such as Bunnings and Woolworths, traffic congestion is terrible. On some days it can take over 10 mins to drive back from Bunnings to our place which is only half way up Kenneth Rd. It is particularly bad at the proposed intersection of Condamine and Kenneth Rd and the round about at Kenneth Rd and Roseberry st. I'm sure many residents would expect this congestion to be much worse with yet another development such as a car park that would create a bottle neck with cars frequently moving in and out of the car park. This congestion already causes an increase in road rage, collisions and pedestrian safety risks that we wouldn't like to see get any worse. Purely from traffic perspective, surely it would be less impact up the road at Gilmores shoes?

    Djohnson asked almost 2 years ago

    Hi Djohnson

    The location and size of each car park was investigated in an overall parking strategy, which was prepared for the B-Line corridor, and used travel to work data from the most recent census, and forecasts for growth in the workforce adjacent the corridor to assess optimum parking requirements. 

    The Kenneth Road option would also provide more direct access for commuters travelling on Condamine Street. 

    Transport for NSW and Roads and Maritime Services are currently investigating ways to improve current traffic conditions around the preferred location, including possible changes to traffic light sequencing, modifications to parking conditions and alterations to lane configurations on Kenneth Road. 

    More information about traffic management in and around the preferred option will be available when the environmental impact assessment is released in early 2016 for public comment.

    ~ Neil

  • I would be interested to understand any studies that suggest areas with car parks have a higher % rate of crime compared with areas without car parks. Both in the carp park itself and neighbouring streets. Thanks

    Djohnson asked almost 2 years ago

    Hi Djohnson

    The Northern Beaches BRT program will deliver six new commuter car parks at Mona Vale, Warriewood, Narrabeen, Dee Why, Brookvale and Manly Vale providing around 900 spaces, as well as bicycle parking, to encourage customers to park and ride.

    Crime prevention principles will be incorporated into the design of the new commuter car parks, which may include measures such as the use of CCTV and increased natural observation opportunities. 

    ~ Neil

  • With the new B-Line service, will there be 24 h buss lanes on Pittwater Rd, OR will the current clearway times (6-10 am southbound) and 3-7 pm (northbound) be retained or modified?

    harbord1967 asked almost 2 years ago

    Hi harbord1967

    The need to change on-street parking restrictions and traffic conditions to improve bus journey times and reliability is currently being investigated. If there is a need to make changes to parking availability on the corridor, a proposal will be developed and presented for community consultation and discussion.

    Transport for NSW expects to be able to commence consultation on options for possible changes to current parking arrangements during Quarter 1, 2016. 

    Note that there is no proposal to create 24 hour bus lanes in front of businesses located on Condamine Street, Manly Vale, as part of the Northern Beaches BRT program. 

    The project team is still considering whether the B-Line service would benefit from extending the bus lane hours of operation in the northbound direction from 7pm to 8pm. 

    ~ Neil

  • Why do we need double-decker buses when the existing buses would be better suited, would not require the driver to wait for passengers to climb the stairs and get seated and would not require all the trees along the roadside to be mutilated?

    Stuck in Cromer asked about 2 years ago

    Double decker buses provide greater capacity, particularly seating capacity, than articulated buses but occupy less road space.

    They have a reduced footprint compared to an articulated bus, which will help reduce traffic impact and congestion at stops.

  • Will the commuter parking be free like it is at railway stations or will Northern Beaches commuters just be lumped with yet another cost impost?

    Stuck in Cromer asked about 2 years ago

    The current Transport for NSW policy provides free, untimed parking for commuters.

  • Why did the State government sell the land where EbsRay Pumps is located. Wouldn't this land be an ideal location for a bus terminal and commuter carpark in Brookvale especially since the taxpayers already own it?

    Stuck in Cromer asked about 2 years ago

    Hi Stuck in Cromer

    Transport for NSW is working with NSW Health to provide a B-Line stop and commuter car parking within the NSW Health-owned Brookvale Community Health Centre to be constructed on Pittwater Road.

    ~ Neil

  • How will someone travel between the new Brookvale Community Health Centre and the new Hospital in French Forest? It seems that the transport corridor between Brookvale and Chatswood (which would in theory serve the Hospital) is severely lacking. Wouldn't it make sense to extend any next generation transport sevice to the new hospital (and run an express service between Brookvale and Chatswood at the same time)?

    scott asked about 2 years ago

    Hi Scott

    A new bus service plan for the whole of the Northern Beaches is currently being developed. The plan aims to ensure the regional network operates effectively for customers across the region, and is due to be completed in the first quarter of 2016. The bus service plan will include services to the new hospital and Chatswood. The bus service plan will be outlined in communication materials distributed to the community to ensure customers have a full understanding of what changes are proposed for the bus network.

    ~ Neil

  • I am very concerned about provision for the suburbs north of Mona Vale which do not get a mention at all. These suburbs rely on the L90 and the Express buses as they are the only public transport provision. It is stated that there will be no additional buses entering the CBD once the B line is running. This statement sounds the death knell for the express buses and possibly the regular 20 minute off peak service currently provided by the L90. The B line may well be excellent for residents south of Mona Vale but its substitution for the L90 would make things significantly worse for those to the north. There is mention of services to link with the B line but presumably that would mean changing buses at Mona Vale, which will just add to the journey length. A suggestion-alternate B buses to start/finish at palm Beach with limited stops-Palm beach, Avalon, Newport beach and Newport wharf. That would still give Mona Vale and south a 10 minute service but provide those to the north with a 20 minute service.

    Felicity asked about 2 years ago

    Hi Felicity

    The B-Line service is proposed to run between Mona Vale and the Sydney CBD. There will also continue to be other bus services from areas north of Mona Vale to provide connectivity with the B-Line, the Sydney CBD and other areas on the Northern Beaches.

    A new bus service plan for the whole of the Northern Beaches is currently being developed. The plan aims to ensure the regional network operates effectively for customers across the region, and is due to be completed in the first quarter of 2016. The Northern Beaches bus service plan is not expected to result in an increase to the number of buses travelling over the Harbour Bridge in the morning peak one hour only.

    The bus service plan will be outlined in communication materials distributed to the community to ensure customers have a full understanding of what changes are proposed for the bus network.

    ~ Neil

  • I received your coloured brochure the other day. Why was there no community consultation before this plan was announced? Who was on the planning committee and how did they come up with the published plan? What were the options that were taken into account before publishing the Berry Reserve plan? I feel that the plan to extend the commuter carpark to the western side of Pittwater Road is an extremely retrograde step. It will alienate more of the public reserve - at the very time that public transport services are being enhanced due to increased population. The same population need their open spaces. "Paving paradise" is not the way to achieve that. There is an existing council carpark in Lagoon Street which should be upgraded instead. It is directly behind the main south-bound Narrabeen bus stop - on the same side of Pittwater Road as the main to-city commute (ie where people start their journey). It would obviate the need for commuters to cross Pittwater Road, which causes significant delays to both commuters and peak hour traffic with more frequent traffic light changes. In terms of time taken, it would be faster to reach the main bus stop from Lagoon Street than from Berry Reserve. The actual walking distance is comparable. It could be further enhanced if a corridor between the commercial buildings on the western side of Lagoon Street could be connected between the Lagoon St carpark and the main bus stop. The Lagoon Street Carpark is currently located between 2x 3-storey buildings so could be built to that height with no loss of amenity to the locale. Capacity would be much more than a measly 40 additional spaces. Costs saved in relocating TOILETS (??) and the basketball courts and squashing them against existing features in the Berry Reserve could be spent on providing ... more carparks! It should also be possible to do a level or two underground. Manly council has a lot of these small, efficient multilevel carparks that are absolutely essential to the public usage, amenity and commercial strength of the area. A multi-level carpark in lieu of the current Lagoon St one, which currently provides only about 50 places would significantly enhance the viability of the commercial centre of Narrabeen, in addition to providing better commuter services and preserve the amenity of Berry Reserve. I expect such a proposal would be supported by the Chamber of Commerce and the Council. Is there an opportunity for the proposal to provide additional commuter carpark spaces at Narrabeen to be reconsidered?

    jsheehan1@oceanholdings.com asked about 2 years ago

    Hi jsheehan1

    Thanks for providing your feedback on the preferred option for car parking at Narrabeen.

    Following initial consultation with key stakeholders including local Councils, SHOROC and property owners, our team is continuing to engage with the community, including local residents and retailers, to gather initial feedback on infrastructure, road works and traffic and parking impacts.

    Information about the four options that were considered, including an option at Lagoon Street, is available in the Narrabeen Project Update.

    The preferred option to redesign and extend the existing car park at Berry Reserve was assessed against rigorous criteria including operational efficiency, accessibility, constructability, environmental impact, community and stakeholder benefit, and visual impact.

    There will be opportunities to further review and comment on the concept design and environmental impact assessment in the first quarter of 2016.

    ~ Neil

  • The Sydney Harbour Bridge/York St exit is already at capacity for buses during peak hours. How does adding more buses to this route solve this problem?

    scott asked about 2 years ago

    Hi Scott

    The Northern Beaches bus service plan currently being developed is not expected to result in an increase to the number of buses travelling over the Harbour Bridge in the morning peak one hour.

    ~ Neil

  • Is a dedicated bus lane going to be provided to improve travel time along Spit and Military Roads?

    SueJ asked about 2 years ago

    Hi Sue

    Recognising Spit Junction through to Neutral Bay as a specific congestion point along the B-Line route, road treatments such as additional bus lanes, lane widening, traffic light phasing, tidal flows and priority movements are currently being investigated.

    ~ Neil

  • Mona Vale is currently shown as the start of the route. What is the plan for people living north of Mona Vale to access the B-Line? Are 150 places enough to cater for everyone from Newport to Palm Beach? What are the changes in scope of this project to cater for people reaching the Mona Vale terminus without having to drive?

    dalecohen asked about 2 years ago

    Hi Dale

    The B-Line service is proposed to run between Mona Vale and the Sydney CBD. As well as the construction of up to 150 additional car spaces to access the B-Line stop at Mona Vale, there will also continue to be other bus services from areas north of Mona Vale to provide connectivity with the B-Line, the Sydney CBD and other areas on the Northern Beaches.

    A new bus service plan for the whole of the Northern Beaches is currently being developed. The plan aims to ensure the regional network operates effectively for customers across the region, and is due to be completed in the first quarter of 2016. The bus service plan will be outlined in communication materials distributed to the community to ensure customers have a full understanding of what changes are proposed for the bus network.

    ~ Neil

  • what ways have been considered to meld the B-Line into the transport/social mix of the area. The use of fast buses should require feeder services rather than increased car parks

    narrabeen asked about 2 years ago

    Hi narrabeen

    The Northern Beaches BRT program is about making bus travel an easy, reliable and comfortable way to travel along the north-south corridor between Mona Vale and the Sydney CBD.

    New facilities such as commuter car parks are included in the program so people can park and ride conveniently. A bus service plan for the whole Northern Beaches region is currently being developed, which aims to ensure the regional network operates effectively for customers across the region, and is due to be completed in the first quarter of 2016.

    Active transport routes to improve connectivity to B-Lines stops and car parks are also being considered to encourage public transport use, and facilities for parking bicycles would be provided near B-Line stops and/or car parks.

    ~ Neil

  • There is currently an off-peak L90 bus service every 15 minutes from Mona Vale to Wynyard - the B-Line proposal increases the service to every 10 minutes. However, the length of the trip, 62 traffic lights, delays, congestion etc., regularly means that scheduled L90 services are so delayed that one can wait for up to 45 mins for a bus from Mona Vale to the City in the off-peak - and then 3 buses come at once and travel to the city with one bus full with standing passengers and the other 2 buses empty! If there is a scheduled B-Line bus every 10 minutes, how will we be guaranteed they will arrive every 10 minutes at every stop, and not bunch up so that we still wait 45 minutes for a bus and then maybe 4 buses arrive in convoy with 1 full and 3 empty?

    tbuckler asked about 2 years ago

    Hi tbuckler

    We recognise that the frequency and reliability of the B-Line is a key factor in people choosing to use the service.

    Improvements to roads, fleet, parking, timetable and bus loading measures at new stops are included as part of the program to reduce delays at congestion points and improve bus journey reliability along the corridor from Mona Vale to the CBD.

    ~ Neil

  • B-Line buses will use the same route, the same bus lanes, traverse the same 62 traffic lights between Mona Vale and Wynyard, and adhere to the same speed limits as the existing E88 and E89 services. But the B-Line service has 9 stops, whereas the E88 and E89 services have only 5. How much longer will the B-Line journey time be, compared to the current E88/E89 journey times?

    tbuckler asked about 2 years ago

    Hi tbuckler

    Traffic modelling is currently being undertaken to determine the average journey times expected on the new B-Line service.

    One of the aims of the program is to deliver a more reliable average journey time, particularly in the peak, and road treatments such as minor lane widening, traffic light phasing, tidal flows, and priority movements are being investigated to determine a scope of works to improve bus journey reliability and reduce delays at congestion points, particularly Dee Why, Brookvale and Spit Junction through to Neutral Bay.

    ~ Neil

  • The B-Line will service 9 bus stops between Mona Vale and Wynyard. What about all the in-between stops? Will some Local and Limited stops services be retained, or will a shuttle service concept be introduced to transfer customers from in-between stops to the next B-Line stop as a transfer point. Which existing services will be axed, retained, enhanced, or replaced?

    tbuckler asked about 2 years ago

    Hi tbuckler

    A bus service plan for the whole Northern Beaches region, which will include the new B-Line service, is due to be completed in the first quarter of 2016.

    The new bus service plan aims to ensure the regional network operates effectively for customers across the region and the bus service planners are currently looking at how to best integrate B-Line services with the surrounding bus network.

    There will be some changes to the bus network in the new service plan, and these will be communicated to the community during 2016.

    ~ Neil

  • When do you think that commuters north of Mona Vale might be likely to see information that is relevant, current and detailed regarding the proposed cessation of the current express services? The marketing campaign for the BLine continues but the specifics for commuters who use the E87, E88 or E89 appear not to have made any progress. We have been told - information and details are coming but they don't arrive. The E89 services (albeit limited to 3 or 4 in the mornings and afternoons) are heavily used, relied upon and an efficient way to get to the city and back. We were told it was being scrapped, we were told the BLine might extend beyond Mona Vale, we were told information is coming......but when? We pay rates, we pay taxes and we use public transport - why can't we get details?

    SueT asked 10 months ago

    Hi SueT

    The new Northern Beaches Bus Services Plan is continuing to be updated, with an expected release in March. The release will be supported by a range of consultation activities, particularly north of Mona Vale.

    The release of the new plan has been delayed due to ongoing investigations around a possible extension of the B-Line north of Mona Vale. The scope of the plan is dependent on the outcome of these studies.

    ~ Neil

  • The reason I can go about my daily life, my family can go about their lives, my friends, my coworkers, my peers...is because of those two bus stops you want to move. You will destroy everything hundreds of people have set in place and affect their daily lives completely. Why does no one know about the B-Line? Yes, you said it was in two different newsletters, but if no one knows about it, your newsletters clearly weren't effective and therefore you cannot use them to argue your point. Barely anyone knows about your plans to wreak havoc through Mosman, Cremorne and Neutral Bay and all areas connected through the buses at those two stops, and even those that do, do not agree with it. What makes you think it is a good idea? The buses from those stops ARE efficient, ARE on time, and help many young students, workers and elderly people travel across Sydney.

    lilyoph asked 11 months ago

    Hi lilyoph

    The current proposal involves the relocation of the existing stops at Cremorne in both directions around 100 metres west, not a removal as suggested in some reports. 

    A recent update on the Get Involved page of this website provides further details.

    We will continue to provide updates on the proposal as feedback is considered and further modelling conducted.

    ~ Neil

  • Currently, there is terrible traffic on Sydney Road turning right on to Spit Road during peak hour - particularly bad on Tuesdays. This morning, the 7.37 am E50 bus was scheduled to arrive at North Sydney at 8.08 am but didn't arrive until about 8.45 am. There was no accident - this is usual. With the closure of Heaton Ave, the study shows more cars will be forced onto Sydney Road. What steps are planned to improve (and it needs to be significantly improved) Sydney Road traffic? Particularly for public transport? regards Frank

    fbannon asked 11 months ago

    Hi Frank

    Thanks for your question.

    The proposed closure of Heaton Avenue is no longer being considered. TfNSW and RMS are continuing to review feedback, modelling and data and consult with local stakeholders and community groups to ensure the best decision is made.

    Proposed road improvement works between Seaforth and Neutral Bay aim to improve the reliability of travel times. While this is prioritised for B-Line and city services, the benefits will flow-on to services using Spit/Military Road to access other areas.

    ~ Neil 


  • I would like to know how adding an extra bus onto military rd every 5 minutes will ease congestion not add to it and if you have plans for preventing the increase of motorists using rat runs in the Cremorne/ Neutral Bay Area. Seems like there is no upside for residents of the lower north shore.

    John asked 11 months ago

    Hi John

    The implementation of the B-Line will not increase the number of services travelling along the corridor or across the Harbour Bridge. It will streamline services travelling between the Northern Beaches and Sydney CBD.

    Further information will be provided when the new Northern Beaches Bus Services Plan is released in the next month.

    ~ Neil

  • The first question is to ask "Why is it that few poeple have any idea of the chaos that will be created by the B-Line bus for a large percentage of people in the Mosman, Cremorne and Neutral Bay area."? No one I have talked to in Spencer Road, Spofforth St, has seen the original pamphlet and nobody I have yet talked to was advised about the public meetings that have been held since December. It is only through the publicity on the counters of the local Cremorne pharmacy that we became aware of the substantial changes and destruction of local life by this bus. As this B-Line plan will have more effect on the lives of the lower North Shore than any where else the phaphlet should have been distribuuted by letter box in early December. The planned changes to traffic lanes, bus stops and street closures will create havoc and large traffiic build ups in Spofforth Street, and other roads form Mosman to Neutral Bay. Spofforth Street is already at stop for a few hours each day in the morning and afternoon. The plan to move the bus stops at Cremorne Junction in both directiions will inconvenience hundreds of people and create substantial difficulties for many, especially elderly, who rely on the buses from this area to get to the city, N.Sydney, the North Shore Hospital, Spit Junction, Manly etc. In addition many people need the bus stops at Cremorne to get to the Cremorne Centre, the cinema and the restaurants.What about the thousands of people who go to the Cremone Orpheum by bus, as there is not sufficient parking, and it is irrisponsible to use the restaurants accompanied by wine and drive. This proposal will destroy Cremorne and make it deserted.shopping and entrtainment area. Undoubltedly any plans for roadside parking will also prevent people coming to Cremorne This is another of those plans to delay even further the buidling of the tunnel under the Spit bridge for another 20 years and in the meantime destroy the ammenties of the Lower N. Shore. This will put the nail in the coffin of this area being a blue ribbon seat for the Liberals, added to the amalgamation issue.If this propossal goes ahead I and several of my neoghbours will not be voting Liberal at the next election. Restriction of the full information about the B-Line, (Which is still not available) was to hide the real facts about it. Obviuosly the Goverment has no intention of taking any notice of the problems and protests , as they have already committed to the buses and many other parts os contruction.

    hqpl asked 11 months ago

    Hi hqpl

    Your comments are noted. An initial newsletter was distributed throughout the area in December, and again in January.

    The proposed relocated bus stops would be moved between 100-150 metres to minimise any inconvenience to existing customers.

    The road changes at Cremorne form part of a series of road improvement works across the corridor that will improve flow for general traffic and buses.

    ~ Neil

  • Will the bus stop outside Cremorne Town Centre on Military Road be closed?

    Carolyn asked 11 months ago

    Hi Carolyn

    Thanks for your question. Under the current proposal, the city bound bus stop at Cremorne will be relocated around 100 metres west of its current location, while the bus stop heading towards the Spit Bridge will be moved around 130 metres west of the present location. 

    ~ Neil

  • Will the B-Line offer regular return services back from the city? And if not, will existing services (e.g L98, L90, 178, etc) continue running?

    alexm4 asked 11 months ago

    Hi alexm4

    The B-Line will operate in both directions to and from the Sydney CBD. Services outside the B-Line are being investigated as part of a new service plan, which will be released in the next few months.

    ~ Neil

  • Hello, My question is in regard to the use of pushbikes on Military and Spit roads. Every day, hundreds of buses and therefore, thousands of people are held up by pushbikes travelling in the far left lane. I find it mesmerising that a bus with over 100 people can be slowed to the speed of a pushbike, sometimes for kilometres. I am aware of (and use) the dedicated pushbike path that runs parallel with Military and Spit roads however, rarely see others using it. My question is, will pushbikes be banned from using Military and Spit roads and required to use the dedicated path? Thanks you for your time. Ben

    ben1 asked 12 months ago

    Hi Ben

    There are no current plans to change the current road prioritisations in the areas you mention. However, the RMS Easing Sydney's Congestion Program is looking at measures across the region where there current congestion points can be reduced.

    ~ Neil

  • I am pleased to see there are more options being considered rather than just the closure of Heaton Avenue. Can I ask four questions: 1. are the other options being evaluated with an open mind ie is it a level playing field for all options? 2. what criteria and priority or weighting of various metrics will be used to make the final decision ie cost vs delays vs speed of B-line buses 3. will the premises used for the modelling be fully revealed at the community forums ie how you have assessed where the local traffic will go if Heaton Avenue is closed and how much extra congestion (and therefore delays) will be experienced elsewhere in the system 4. is there an assessment of how many cars the B-line will take off the roads as presumably this is the over-arching objective ie how many current car drivers have said they will shift their commute from private cars to the buses. I am concerned that predicting human behaviour is not an exact science and so anticipated time savings if Heaton is closed may in reality simply shift the issue to elsewhere on the route so not actually improve anything for the people commuting from further up the Northern Beaches.

    Jem asked about 1 year ago

    Hi Jem

    The option to fully close Heaton Avenue at Manly Road is no longer being considered. Modelling undertaken so far is provided within the REF. Other options are being considered across a rigorous criteria.

    Further modelling would be detailed in relevant determinations.

    The aim of the B-Line is to provide an improved bus service and cater for the region's growing populations. A significant 'mode shift' is part of the project's objectives and a significant measure of value-for-money.

    ~ Neil 


  • Hi Neil, Thanks for your reply, however I do not regard the on-board congestion will be alleviated by NSW Transport only "investigating" empty buses starting from DY. This will be required to provide adequate seating due to the already overloaded buses and to accommodate thousands of new people who will be living in the new units being built at DY. As the buses coming from the north will therefore already be full, empty buses will also be required to start at each of the southern B-line "nodes": Warringah Mall and Condamine St cnr Kenneth Rd - both of which currently have long queues and people always have to stand up in commuter times. This current congestion problem will be exasperated further if all of the local buses are going to feed into the B-line nodes and not continue to the City. When all the people on these local feeder buses have to get off and they will have to queue again at the B-line nodes to catch a second bus into the CBD, taking more time and most likely without a seat. Please can you tell me how having  extra frequency of buses will compensate for all these factors and actually improve the commute quality, timing and service to the City? I look forward to receiving your clarification how all of these issues listed above will be fully addressed by NSW Transport before the B-line is finalised. Best regards,  Katherine

    knavin asked about 1 year ago

    Hi Katherine

    Your points are well-made. B-Line buses will increase customer capacity and service frequency compared with existing services, providing greater comfort for passengers.

    The new Northern Beaches Bus Service Plan will soon be released and provide more information on services outside of the B-Line corridor.

    Travel time and reliability are expected to improve as a result of road improvement works taking place across the B-Line corridor, with major benefits expected at current pinchpoints at Spit Junction and Neutral Bay.

    ~ Neil